what is it? and what all is involved in puttin it into a 99 Ranger 21wd reg cab/bed... thanks. (tried a search didnt find anything)

The Mustang II and Pinto used a nice upper and lower A-arm suspension.

Isn't the 99 Ranger non-I-beam already?

yeah, but sum1 told me tht i needed a M2 IFS to get a Mach1 4.6 DOHC engien in my truck, i thaught my truck and the mustang 2 IFS was the same..... i was just checkin. thanks.

does any1 knwowhere ican find this info? i need like a complete diagnostical analysis of the 99 ranger 2wd frame..... mainly the frotn end and a frame...... i got me an idea....need to do sum research...... TIA - Roger

Originally posted by 99-302pwrd
yeah, but sum1 told me tht i needed a M2 IFS to get a Mach1 4.6 DOHC engien in my truck,

A different suspension isn't what's needed to fit a 4.6 in a Ranger. What you need is sledgehammer to beat the firewall and fenderwalls in as well as some seriously custom plumbing to get the exhaust out. FYI, the mod motor (4.6/5.4) is huge, it dwarfs the 5.0 and the only one I'm aware of in a Ranger is the one that the Ford SVT guys did as a one off thing and they had to do some pretty major work to get it to fit.

yeah, i knwo theo ther mdos needed....just and IFS off an MII was one of the thigns i wasnt too sure about....im ready for the challenge.......

where can ifind a complete MII IFS kit tht will fit my 99 ranger 2wd? i haven o idea what width the frame is comparedto a 40's truck/car..... TIA - Roger

I believe the frame rails are about the same distance apart, but why bother, you've already got a pretty decent A arm front suspension. The MII swap is generally used for guys wanting to get rid of their I beam front suspensions ('97 and prior)

Also, why does it matter how the Ranger compares to a 40's era vehicle when the MII was a late 70's vehicle?

b/c the MII kits ive found were for 40's vehicles....

Many places will cut the "beam" on a Mustang II to fit whatever frame rails your sticking it on.

doesa ny1 knwo the 99 ranger 2wd frame measurements?

Dear God man please learn to type. ;)

Something I have been wondering about is swapping the Mustang suspension to be able to install bigger brakes. Any info on this, Aaron?

Originally posted by John Moorehead
Something I have been wondering about is swapping the Mustang suspension to be able to install bigger brakes. Any info on this, Aaron?

Mustang or Mustang II

Whichever one is the easiest to fab. But for compatibility of the 13" rotors I'd assume the newer stangs. (SN-95)

Originally posted by John Moorehead
Whichever one is the easiest to fab. But for compatibility of the 13" rotors I'd assume the newer stangs. (SN-95)

MII uses a double A arm suspension, from what I've heard the spindle is much shorter than the Ranger spindle and I've yet to find any actual dimensions, either on the arms or on the spindle.

Both the SN95 and Fox use a strut front suspension, but there is a way around that. Theres a company that fabricates a bracket that allow the Mustang spindle to be used with an upper control arm. The big downside, of a complete Mustang swap, even using that bracket, is that it is significantly wider than the ranger. Of course you could always use fender flares or flared, fiberglass, prerunner style fenders to cover up the extra width.

Another option that I considered was using a Mustang spindle with said bracket, a custom upper control arm and the stock Ranger lower control arm. One thing that kinda scares me about that, though, is that the Mustang lower ball joint points up whereas the Ranger lower ball joint points down. It doesn't make much of a difference with a strut setup, but with the coil spring pushing down on the lower control arm and the weight of the vehicle pushing the wheel/spindle up, all the weight of the front end is going to be relying on the strength of the threads on the lower ball joints.

One other possible option is to use a hub adapter for an SVO (same bolt pattern as the Ranger) Stock, they used hub rotor setup like the Ranger does, but aftermarket companies like Wilwood make a seperate hub and caliper mounting bracket to use larger hat style rotors. I know the inside wheel bearing is the same for the Ranger and the SVO, but they use different outside bearings and I've never taken the measurements of the two to see where the difference is (although, I guess all I'd have to do is make a trip to the parts store with a mic.)

Originally posted by 99-302pwrd
what all is involved in puttin it into a 99 Ranger 21wd reg cab/bed... thanks.

Ooops, guess I missed that part to begin with. There's nothing we can do to help you out with your 21 wheel drive ranger.

Originally posted by Aaron B
Ooops, guess I missed that part to begin with. There's nothing we can do to help you out with your 21 wheel drive ranger.

Geez, it was a typo... He might be a little excited and unable to take a tape measure out to measure the frame rails on his own truck, but at least cut the guy a little slack. ;)

would take the measurments myself, but its like 23* outside, and the engine is still in my truck

Just givin' ya a little ****. :)








But seriously, go out and measure your frame rails, they're in front of, behind and below the engine too.







NOW!

i9its stil cold out....lol and i still have fendersand stuff, its just a lil tight with al ltht unimportant newer tech" stuff in ther....egr who needs tht....lol

Originally posted by 99-302pwrd
i9its stil cold out....lol and i still have fendersand stuff, its just a lil tight with al ltht unimportant newer tech" stuff in ther....egr who needs tht....lol

huh? :confused:

Give up man. The cold got to him.http://www.generation-edge.com/forums/images/xsmilies/icon_smile_cold.gif

why does it matter the 4.6/5.4 will not go in even with the II front end?

If I were seriously wanting a mustang II front end here is who I would contact, http://www.fatmanfab.com/ they are very helpful and considered one of the best in the business.

This is all madness! What is wrong with you people! Just kidding.

If I remember right the frame rails on control arm Rangers is approx. 31" it is 23 degrees outside right now and I don't feel like measuring it again.

The main problem with the OHC engines in these trucks is the interference between the upper control arm and the heads. I am not sure that the MII setup would hel than much. I think there is an Ibeam Ranger with a 4.6 in it but he has yet to post any pics to prove it.

I have not seen any pics of the SVT Ranger with the Lightning engine to know how they changed the upper control arm mounts to clear the 90 degree V8.

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but with the coil spring pushing down on the lower control arm and the weight of the vehicle pushing the wheel/spindle up, all the weight of the front end is going to be relying on the strength of the threads on the lower ball joints.
The balljoints on GMC/Chevy fullsize pickups have the same setup (with both balljoints pointing towards each other). I don't know what the difference in thickness of the balljoints are though, that could make a difference. I know the GM ones are pretty beefy.

measure your track width(from where the wheel bolts on on the disc brake up front to the same on the other side). then call up a shop and tell them that and they'll make your engine x member the right width to put your wheels back at the stock place.

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