View Full Version : Turbos? Has anybody?


KwikRanger302
Jan 27 2004, 07:46am
Has anyone in here turbo'd a 3.0? Is it really worth it? How much did it take you to do it cost wise, and what kind of gains did you get with it. A time slip would be gr8. Thanx

LowRedRanger
Jan 27 2004, 06:18pm
umm i am not sure anyone has actually done a turbo successfully most people that have tried have given up due to the fact that there is such limited space. no room for pipeing and hard to fit an intercooler in there also.

KwikRanger302
Jan 27 2004, 09:03pm
Nevermind about the stupid turbo questions. I juss found some good info on the turbo setups. So I need no info. Thanx anyways.

Spngr311
Jan 27 2004, 09:37pm
What info did you find and where?

Tate
Jan 27 2004, 11:37pm
JP3 turboed his 2.9, might want to talk to him about doing it.

KwikRanger302
Jan 28 2004, 12:47am
He-ey Spngr311 Where did you get that front valence and how much did it cost? That is the greatest. :nuts: I've been searching forever and still havn't found it. :( Please help me find one.

I found that With the space I have in my engine cavity with the 3.0 and the way things are situated that it wouldn't be worth it to do it.:( I'v only heard of a few people doing it succssfully, and I don't want to take my chances, when the success rate is low with the 3.0. that's ok. I plan on doing it with my motor swap anyways.

Spngr311
Jan 28 2004, 11:19am
I got the valence at www.truckaddons.com; it's a Go Industries Valence. Sorry about not telling you sooner, I keep forgetting.

KwikRanger302
Jan 28 2004, 11:17pm
:beer:Thanx a ton bro! It's no biggys about the lag. I was just info Hungry!:E heh heh

:cussing: Dang! I juss went there, and I couldn't find it. What is it under? or is it discontinued now? could you find it and put a direct link to it in this thread so I can find it? Thanx.:)

Adam Baker
Jan 28 2004, 11:30pm
Probably the easiest way to do it, woudl be to mount the turbo at the base of the Y pipe, and feed the intake tube back up to the front. WOuldnt require a whole lot of room to do that.

ShibbyRanger
Jan 29 2004, 12:13pm
Thats what I hear the turbo setups on the firebirds and camaros are doing except the turbo is getting mounted around the rear axel or something like that...could work for the ranger if you tried...alot more plumbing but a turbo would be nice...

KwikRanger302
Jan 29 2004, 12:57pm
Yeah it would, but to drag the turbo all the way back to the rear axle just seem dumb to me because that juss means it takes the air more distance and time to get to the motor by far. I juss don't like that setup as much. I would have to hear some good numbers from that beofre I trusted it's credibility.

Tate
Jan 29 2004, 11:43pm
It dropped 3 seconds off the Camaro' ET if i remember correctly by adding that setup. Plus, with it being that far back, the air charge is cooled going all the way up to the motor, so no intercooler is required.

KwikRanger302
Jan 30 2004, 12:31am
Ok. Kewl Kewl. I'll be doing some research on that one.

Hammy211
Jan 30 2004, 02:31am
Are you wanting to turbo a 3.0? Have you ruled out the Whipple supercharger for some reason?

99 Supercab
Jan 30 2004, 07:22am
Not to hijack your thread, but JC Whitney also has that front valence.

Spngr311
Jan 30 2004, 11:07am
http://www.truckaddons.com/Catalog/subpages/GO_downspoilers.htm

That's the link to where I bought mine from.

http://www.jcwhitney.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductDisplay?catalogId=10101&storeId=10101&langId=-1&productId=262120&mediaCode=ZX&appId=413898

That's the link from JC Whitney.

KwikRanger302
Jan 30 2004, 11:23am
Awesome! They took it off of Truck Addons I don't see it there on the page, but I asked for a price so I hope they respond. I should be getting one soon.

Spngr311
Jan 30 2004, 05:11pm
http://www.truckaddons.com/Catalog/subpages/GO_downspoilers_app.htm

It's right there you had to click on applications. It's like 120 plus shipping (30 more bucks).

bluedge
Jan 30 2004, 11:08pm
Turbos work mostly on the expansion of hot exhaust gasses, so being that far back would cut down a lot of boost. Not that it wouldnt help out, but with all the hassle for a few pounds of boost, it may not be worth it.

~Russell

ShibbyRanger
Feb 02 2004, 04:48pm
Originally posted by bluedge
Turbos work mostly on the expansion of hot exhaust gasses, so being that far back would cut down a lot of boost. Not that it wouldnt help out, but with all the hassle for a few pounds of boost, it may not be worth it.

~Russell

well..."The exhaust from the cylinders passes through the turbine blades, causing the turbine to spin. The more exhaust that goes through the blades, the faster they spin." Its not gonna cut down on boost...its just how much back pressure is the exhaust being that far back gonna cause...Think about the firebirds, it works on those so ya know...I would say put forged internals and run 20 psi, it would be fun...you don't have to take it past the rear axel, might find another place and it could decrease under hood temps as well...if it work on a camaro, it will work on these, the exhaust temps will be hot, sure they will cool down by the time then get to the end but its still pretty hot...warm air is less dense than cool so I guess you could say that it does not spin the wheel as fast...I think that the exhaust coming out of the engine will spin the turbo just fine...increase air flow into the engine and increase air coming out...seems like it will work to me...but what do I know :rolleyes: Probably going to have its ups and down just like anything else, keep that in mind...:thumbsup:

KwikRanger302
Feb 02 2004, 06:41pm
kewl kewl. Thank you all for your help.

289 DANGER
Feb 02 2004, 07:03pm
Hey guys, I know I havent been on this site for quite
a while,but having the turbo out by the axle makes no sense at all. A turbo relies on oil from the engine and a return line to go back into the oil pan (usually above the oil level). they also rely on hot exhaust energy among other variables to spin the turbine, so being at the back of the vehicle is just stupid (Not to mention all the lag). I do own a turbo car (Merkur XR4Ti) so turbos are not new to me, and I say go for the turbo set up.
check out www.cherryturbos.com and they may be able to help you out with some ideas and turbo sizes

Tate
Feb 02 2004, 08:06pm
Keep in mind, its not like they are taking a a turbo that is meant to be right off the header of a 5.7 and putting it at the back of the car. Its a different, most likely smaller turbo near the rear. In the article, it said that lag was minimal at worst. I don't remember what they did for the oiling, possibly a seperate system all together. Doesn't really matter where the oil comes from, as long as it gets it.

ShibbyRanger
Feb 02 2004, 10:43pm
Originally posted by Tate
Keep in mind, its not like they are taking a a turbo that is meant to be right off the header of a 5.7 and putting it at the back of the car. Its a different, most likely smaller turbo near the rear. In the article, it said that lag was minimal at worst. I don't remember what they did for the oiling, possibly a seperate system all together. Doesn't really matter where the oil comes from, as long as it gets it.

yep yep, it obviously works if its taking 3 seconds off the camaros time...

289 DANGER
Feb 03 2004, 12:13am
I'd love to see a picture of this set up! Do you know if it was a factory GM option or just something some one or a company put together? Any links or anything?

ShibbyRanger
Feb 11 2004, 09:29pm
http://www.ststurbo.com/ :nuts:

289 DANGER
Feb 12 2004, 09:19pm
Well you guys proved me wrong, goood job!
Im still a little unclear on some things but ill have to bookmark
that site!
Thanx guys!!!

Snicker60515
Feb 27 2004, 08:56am
I'm going to have to take pictures of a couple of turboed 3.0 Mazdas that I've seen in the town where I work. I was going to do it with mine but I felt that spending another $2000 on a truck that's not worth even that would be a mistake. I'm going to have to find those guys though and take some pictures. BTW, the town I'm talking about is Jayuya, Puerto Rico and those guys apparently figured it out, even the intercooler location, which on those trucks is behind the grille. I'll see if I can get those pictures taken sometime. But it can be done so if you really want to do it, it can be done and it's not too expensive.

KwikRanger302
Feb 28 2004, 12:47am
He-ey Man. Those pics would be gr8. I'm anxoius to see those. Keep me in touch.

Level7
Mar 02 2004, 10:04pm
There is a lot of room in the ranger compared to other car/trucks.

check this out:

http://store3.yimg.com/I/ntnsracing_1778_1345005

thats a twin turbo kit on the Nissan 350Z ! Check out the room on that engine.

A few friends of mine looked at my 3.0l ranger and said we could develop a 3.0L Ranger turbo kit or even a twin turbo kit (wich might be over kill) that could sell for high 3Ks to mid 4Ks, how ever they need me to find out more info on the truck like .... is it a steel block, what kind of boost has been run on it, ect.

Rangerbrown
Mar 02 2004, 10:55pm
steel block
no such thing as over kill

Level7
Mar 02 2004, 11:12pm
Originally posted by rangerbrown
steel block
no such thing as over kill

LOL

good to know