View Full Version : any new news on a pre 02 kit from whipple ?


984x4ranger
May 15 2004, 08:20pm
if someone could answer it would be nice . i have posted a couple of other times and i know the people come on here but do not answer. it is rude . any answer would be nice

3.0 kaos
May 15 2004, 09:00pm
buy the wipple kit get an 03 lower intake splice the harness and get a custom chip burned. as of now thats it hopefully soon it will be easier but it will atleast be until christmas.

984x4ranger
May 16 2004, 11:57am
thank you for the reply. i could do that . but if there is going to be a kit i am willing to wait . do you know if there will be a kit for sure ?

dans92svtranger
May 16 2004, 01:09pm
http://www.rangerpowersports.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=123832
http://www.rangerpowersports.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=112840
http://www.rangerpowersports.com/forum/showthread.php?s=&threadid=118306
if you read these you will find an answer

984x4ranger
May 16 2004, 07:19pm
read all of those . they are old news . i think if you read them i posted in two of them but got no replies . thats why the post title say any (new ) news . i dont mean to sound like a jerk or be rude but if i could just get a strait answer from doug or someone who knows i would be happy .

Doug904
May 16 2004, 09:08pm
Ok,

The answer given in everyone of those posts is the same. No Whipple the company themselves will not be offering one for the 01 and previous years. Yes, you can make it work but how much are you willing to spend OR better yet how mechanically inclined are you? For someone with mechanical knowledge its a no brainer but for someone who can't change their spark plugs it can be a very expensive install at a shop that doesn't care how fast you go, just how much your willing to spend to get there. Also with the early models the chip and injectors are an issue so the answer is..

NO, there aren't any kits available right yet.

Yes, call Apten and see what they're doing. I'm working with someone right now on a 99 Ranger to install a Whipple but he's only about a 100 miles south of me and he's working with Apten to get the kit and the chip.

later Doug904.

lillitnn92
May 16 2004, 09:23pm
i'm gonna ask this because i'm unsure.

installing this on even older models, is it going to take the same stuff required on the other non-supported models. do you think it would be different, easier? harder? just wondering.

felgar_1
May 16 2004, 09:40pm
Your guy is getting more out of them then i did. I sent apten a few emails about geting a charger and bringing my truck to them and they said they would get back to me and then nothing. So the supercharge is going to wait tell the new motor is built and maybe by then i can just buy the charger and brackets and have a costom burned chip.

BOSS 3.0
May 16 2004, 11:25pm
Originally posted by 984x4ranger
read all of those . they are old news . i think if you read them i posted in two of them but got no replies . thats why the post title say any (new ) news . i dont mean to sound like a jerk or be rude but if i could just get a strait answer from doug or someone who knows i would be happy .

They are not old news, everything you need to know has been covered. No one will "part-out" a kit, so it is best to use what comes in the kit. Order a who kit from Whipple, you have to call, because they won't do it on the website. Spend $49 for the MAF connector and rewire it, it takes 15 minutes, 30 tops.
If you are a flex fuel, sell the EV6 (pencil type) injectors on ebay to cover the cost of "stuff". If you have access to some EV1 (early) 24lb injectors, use them to save your injector harness from splicing. You really want a custom burned chip based on a wide-O2 dyno run anyway, so the reflash is not an issue.
Plugs, wires, tune up parts (since you are there) and get ready for some minor drilling/grinding. Thats it...
As Doug said: "...how mechanically inclined are you?"

Doug904
May 17 2004, 05:50am
I personally would think about selling the kits with everything needed and instructions on how to install it in the early styles BUT I don't have enough confidence in one thing. The Wiring. There are 2-3 connectors that have to be extended or as Boss says added and that alone kills my suport for John Q. Public. I'm not having a bunch of late night phone calls from Wisconson asking why someones truck won't crank because they used butt-connectors instead of soldering because its quicker and easier.

Not to mention the earlier kits WILL NOT be emissions legal, not that it may increase emissions but it won't pass a visual inspection because the CARB sticker is for 02ups only.

Sorry guys, Doug904.

John Moorehead
May 17 2004, 07:03am
Damn. Well, if I'm going to have to "splice" something of that magnitude to make it hopefully work, I'll wait. Not being bitter to you Doug, or anybody associated with Whipple, but my truck is my daily driver. I can't take that gamble UNTIL someone releases a kit with wiring already done.

All the shops around here cater strictly to bowties, so I'm out of luck there.

Guess I'm going to have to be contenet with a 16.9xx second Saleen for a while. :(

dans92svtranger
May 17 2004, 07:45am
you could do other stuff for less than $2500 that will put you faster than 16.9... i know jansonsmf is trying to get into the 14s NA with the smallest budget possible and based on what ive heard from him, he just may do it. a good set of heads from morana is $850 and headers are $600, do some porting on your intakes $50 porting kit from jegs or summit, chip $300. with all that you will be well on your way to 14s and have only spent $1800.

3.0 kaos
May 17 2004, 05:18pm
morano's heads may be awsome but I'll let some body else spend 850 dollars and then let me know.

dans92svtranger
May 17 2004, 07:02pm
im just sayin if you wanted to pay that much... i certainly am not, im doin my heads myself

John Moorehead
May 17 2004, 09:42pm
I heard from a certain someone that Morona's heads and other accessories were sub-par.....

It could work...:nixweiss:

984x4ranger
May 19 2004, 07:52pm
ok , this is what im getting at . i am an auto tech . i can do all the the stuff that needs to be done . meaning rewire connectors lenthening of wires all of that stuff . the thing is i dont do much with superchargers or reflashes . i need the truck to be done asap after i start . i am just tring to get all info needed to do this in the shortest amount of time possable . doug , or boss3.0 do any of you know for sure that the pre 02 kits are going to be made ? this statement was made be boss3.0


Anyone in the Seattle area that is interested in having their pre-'02 3.0L backfitted with a Whipplecharger, order one up and drop me a note. It will take longer than the 2 hour install time listed in the instructions, but it can be done. Practically every issue has been covered, there is, of course, Murphy's Law to factor in.


what i am looking at is... Practically every issue has been covered.
what do you mean when you say this ? is there an adapter so it will fit on the pre 02 lower intake or do i need to install a 02 lower . how about EGR system what do i do with the egr valve and DPFE sensor ? do i leave it (DPFE) in and the reflash will set a fixed value or do i have to take it out and do somthing else ? I know doug has answers im just tring to get them posted . also who does the reflash? apten ? what do i tell them ? i have a whipple kit for an 02 ranger and stuck it on a 98 i ripped out the egr and dpfe MAKE it work ? i just dont know how to go about it . i dont have whipple in my back yard giving me a hand . so please share what info you have .

thank you

984x4ranger
Jun 06 2004, 08:51pm
still waiting for some answers please .

BOSS 3.0
Jun 25 2004, 12:22pm
Based on the slow sales of the '02-'04 kit, the pre-'02 kits may never surface. That is a major problem with this community: Complaints about non-support, then no sales once the product is out.
There is no adaptor for the intakes, you either drill the holes in the upper to 8mm (from 6) or replace the lower intake to make it work. EGR and DPFE are gone, they can not be used as there is no prevision in the upper intake for it. Reflash is an issue - a chip with a custom burn maybe the best bet - see www.bamachips.com (Doug904).
This vehicle will NOT be smog/emissions legal.
If you have electrical experience, it is a piece of cake, the connectors are available at Ford (or a boneyard) and I have replaced the MAF and injector harnesses, for other projects, in no time.
For Pre-'95 owners, the timing can be knocked off at the distributer to make it driveable that day. Dyno data will be needed to make a chip to tie it all together.