OK, I am going crazy. I have been trying edit my signiture for like weeks. everytime I modify it, I get an error saying that sigs can be no longer than 500 characters, even when I delete stuff... lol so someone tell me why I am an idiot and cant figure this out... this all started xuz i realized I spelled "wrapped" as "rapped" in my sig lol!

That's 500 characters, not 500 words. :)

Try cleaning it out, saving the changes, then open it back up and edit it again. You can cut and paste your current sign in notepad for editing, then paste it back if you want.

Mike I understand 500 characters.... but is this something new with the newer v-bulletin? I guess it must be and jsut carried over my sig from the old version even though its more than 500 characters. thanks mike, I will trim it down.