View Full Version : General lowering information on 98+ trucks.


BlauSplash
Feb 12 2005, 10:43am
Ok here is a general information post on dropping a 98+ ranger. this will include parts and what they do for you. If you feel I left someting out please post or Pm me and I will add it on the list.


98 to 05 truck are different than the 83 to 97 conterparts in a few ways. Mainly the suspension in front is the biggest difference you will see here.

the 98 + trucks use a long arm short arm front suspension similar to dare I say an S-10. They have upper and lower control arms and a coil spring.

To drop the front you have a few options. your choices are as follows.

Dropped control arms will get you 2 inches when combined with a stock spring. these constsist of a tubular upper arm and a tubular lower arm with a 2 inch deeper coil spring pocket.

2 inch and 3 inch drop springs. These replace the stock springs and will get you the aforementioned drop.

WARNING:Some people have installed 3 inch coils by them selves and have not been able to get a perfect alignment.

Combinations:

You can combine a 2 inch coil spring with a set of dropped control arms and get a good alignment and about a 4 inch drop in front. this set up comes in a kit form from DJM suspension in athe 4/5 drop kit.

If you feel the 4 inch front drop is not enough you can use the 3 inch drop spring with the arms and get a 5 inch drop in front. Still there are some alignment issues, but the upper arm will help.



Ok now for the rear end. In back the trucks have a leaf spring pack and a rear axle mounted on the bottom of the pack. You have a few options here.

Install lowered leaf springs. This will get you 2 to 3 inches. It is accomplished by buying lowered leafs and replacing te leaf pack on each side.

Install a flip kit. This will get you 4 to 5 inches of drop and is the most popular and common way to drop the rear end. This is accomplished by removing the leafs and replacing them under the axle and installing a flip bracket to hold the axle in place and bolt it back up. There is much more detail to the installation than what I mentioned but that is it in a nutshell. this is the part that comes with the DJM 4/5 drop kit.

3 Inch rear drop kit from DJM. this kit will be the same as the flip kit above except it comes with a 2 inch lifting shackle to rasie the rear end back up 1 or 2 inches depending on the holes you use.

NOTE: If you use the 3 inch kit you cannot flip the rear hangers.


Lowering blocks are placed between the axle and leaf springs and require replacing the u bolts. Doing this will raise the mounting point of the axle. Here is the catch. You canot use them on a ranger unless you have already installed a flip kit which places the axle on top of the leaf spring pack.

You can also flip the rear hangers over and install the shackle upside down for 2 inches. this is done by grinding the rivits out of the rear hangers, bolting them back on upside down, and then twisting the shackle on the leaf pack to where it points down and bolting it back on. Again not total install instructions but generally speaking here it is.

Kurtis M
Feb 17 2005, 12:11am
Just what I was looking for, thanks.

chris05
Feb 22 2005, 07:28pm
great post thank you

pinheadjay
Feb 24 2005, 06:23pm
ok, now i think i understand the flip kit. thanx!

FishNRanger
Mar 02 2005, 11:32pm
Awesome post, you cleared up alot of my questions. I have a few more right quick. What is the rough price range for a professional install on a DJM 4/5 Kit for my 02' Ranger ? I MUST buy new " Lowered Shocks " correct ? I've also heard that my year Ranger has " Camber Adjustments " already built on ? Is this true, and if so, will lowering it with the 4/5 kit make me have too much camber in the front ?

BlauSplash
Mar 03 2005, 05:00pm
New shocks arte recomended, and all trucks usually need adjusters added.

mrigg86
Jun 05 2005, 01:35pm
Thanks for helpful info blausplash. Im probably going to go with that DJM 4/5 inch drop. Are they the only manufacturers that make a drop kit for Rangers or do eibach or some other company make em to?

JSarver
Jun 08 2005, 04:29pm
I used a Djm 2/3 drop. the 2 inch coils in the front. The alignment shop said that i needed a longer upper control arm. Now if i get the upper control arms do i have to by the lower ones too or just the upper.

yobrigidey
Jun 08 2005, 04:36pm
To answer your question: No, you do not have to buy the lowers. The lowers drop the truck another 2" beyond the coils.

If you buy lowers, you need uppers.
if you buy uppers, you don't need lowers.

Now, with only the two inch drop coils, you should not need new upper control arms at all. The shop will probably have to install adjustable camber washers ( you can install them yourself and save money) These washers are used to adjust the camber. I have NEVER EVER EVER heard of anyone needing new upper control arms for the coils.

JSarver
Jun 08 2005, 04:50pm
Why didnt the alignment shop know about these adjustable camber washers and where do i get them from.

JSarver
Jun 08 2005, 04:57pm
I used a Djm 2/3 drop. the 2 inch coils in the front. The alignment shop said that i needed a longer upper control arm. Now if i get the upper control arms do i have to by the lower ones too or just the upper.

These adjustable camber washers where do i get them. why didnt the alignment shop know about these washers.

JSarver
Jun 08 2005, 05:22pm
where do i get these adjustable camber washers to fix my alignment

yobrigidey
Jun 09 2005, 12:21am
I would try taking it to a different alignment shop. Mine were installed by the shop. If the shop doesn't know about these, they must not know too much about doing alignments. You should be able to get them from Napa. The shop i took my truck to had them in stock.

Mark98XLT
Jun 09 2005, 08:11am
where do i get these adjustable camber washers to fix my alignment

Napa, Explorer adjustable cams. +/-2

yobrigidey
Jun 09 2005, 04:48pm
Thanks for the input mark, I wasn't sure if the explorers would work

madscientist
Jun 10 2005, 11:07am
Here's a link to the ones that i used. Most places want 45~50 for them and depending on the size of the city you live in they can be hard to find. Not even the dealership had them in my town...lame.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=33581&item=7971828406&rd=1&ssPageName=WD1V

JSarver
Jun 11 2005, 05:32pm
I put a 2/3 drop djm suspension. I cant get the alignment right. now someone on here told me to get explorer adjustable cambers. how much will these cost? I went to advanced auto parts they said they had never heard of these adjustable cambers? The alignment shop says my truck has shims not adjustable camber bolts. can someone clear all this up for me b/c i dont understand this concept very well.

JSarver
Jun 11 2005, 07:40pm
Does anyone know the best company to go with when you want to bag a ranger?

tire
Jun 12 2005, 02:38pm
i'm looking to lower the front about 1" or so for a slightly more aggressive look on my 04 xlt. i don't want to adversely effect the ride so i would like to know if a 1/4 to 1/2 a dead coil cut on the front stock springs would work out alright. or, are lowering springs a must on trucks? keep in mind i only want a tiny drop for the front for now... at most 1.5". on mustangs you can do a little spring trimming without much grief, is this true on trucks too?

austin

JSarver
Jun 12 2005, 03:02pm
adjusting the camber that does make the wheels straighten up right?

BlauSplash
Jun 14 2005, 06:48pm
Jsarver:


You need to find a beter alignment shop. You can use a camber washer to adjust the camber on your front end. It does not have shims and the shop that told you that needs to be educating the mechanics or go out of buisness.

feel free to print that and take it too them.

Pick up the adjustable washers as mentioned above, find a beter alignment shop that the local jiffy tire, and get them installed and aligned properly.

Camber is the adjustment that makes the top of the tire go in and out as you adjust it accordingly.

Ricky

JSarver
Jun 15 2005, 05:40pm
i'm looking to lower the front about 1" or so for a slightly more aggressive look on my 04 xlt. i don't want to adversely effect the ride so i would like to know if a 1/4 to 1/2 a dead coil cut on the front stock springs would work out alright. or, are lowering springs a must on trucks? keep in mind i only want a tiny drop for the front for now... at most 1.5". on mustangs you can do a little spring trimming without much grief, is this true on trucks too?

austin


Belltech makes kits where you can drop it 1-5 inches in the front and 1-8 in the rear, so check them out for your kit you need.

motorwerks
Jul 03 2005, 02:00pm
Belltech makes kits where you can drop it 1-5 inches in the front and 1-8 in the rear, so check them out for your kit you need.
IM not trying to start **** But Belltech doesnt make a 1-5 kit they sell a 3/3 for our trucks

Hellfirejim
Jul 07 2005, 12:55pm
On my Ranger (98) I plan on using a 2" a-arm w/ a 2" coil drop on the front. In the rear I am going to swap in the Explorer rear. How much drop in the rear will this give me?
thanks
jim

motorwerks
Jul 07 2005, 07:17pm
On my Ranger (98) I plan on using a 2" a-arm w/ a 2" coil drop on the front. In the rear I am going to swap in the Explorer rear. How much drop in the rear will this give me?
thanks
jim I hear 4 inchs with the explorer rear but it seems to me like it would be the same as a flip kit and take you to 5 but what do I know thats just something I heard. Etherway you are going to HAVE to Notch your frame too.... Im at 2/3 and I hit bump stops now. WHen I brought my Tool box home from work the other day(Empty) I was on the Bump stops all the way home.

rangerevv
Aug 26 2005, 12:35pm
what does a djm 4/5 drop kit cost, and what does it cost to get installed?

B Evil
Aug 30 2005, 09:43pm
$629.80 + Shipping from stylinconcepts.com not including new shocks for a DJM 4/5 drop and the install should be free if you know what you're doing. Just a couple hours of well spent time.

AcidRanger
Aug 30 2005, 09:52pm
Probably about $500.00 + or - $20.00 or $30.00 from www.godfathercustoms, shipped to your door, also without shocks. If you can't find it on there website just call them, they have it and can tell you exactly how much.

red_99_ranger
Sep 07 2005, 07:58am
You can find 1",2", and 3" drop coils for $89, 3" drop leaf springs for $169, and 2" drop shackles for $109 at Airbagit.com for the 1998-2005 rangers. I have a 4/5 drop on my 99 XLT right now but i plan on going lower. godfathercustoms.com has the 5" flip kit for $44. They also have 2" (labeled as 4") control arms for $247 and the 2" coils are $82. The c-sections are $101 (but to save money can be made from cutting a 3" pipe in half and notching the frame and install the pipe in the notch and brace it up) all parts from god father's that I have posted is DJM.

:burnout:

CMEDROP
Sep 23 2005, 06:55pm
so i take it no ones make a lowering spindle for the 98+ up?

cannibalgod
Dec 13 2005, 10:37pm
ok so ive installed the 4/5 drop kit on my 2000 ranger. when i took it to the aliment shop they put the adjustible camber washers in the upper a arms and i still have positive camber. they tryed every thing they could do even tryed swaping the upper a arms from left to right side. i am looking to get 1 degree negitive camber. has anyone had any problems with the djm lowering kit like this . and what did you do to fix it? can i go with a 3 inch drop coil an lower the rear another inch? or maybe make shims for the lower a-arms to bring them out further well i need help an i will repost what i find out

NEED4Bass05
Feb 02 2006, 05:35pm
Great post, that helped me to understand alot!