Hello everyone. I was reading a post by "fragmentation" about superchargers for Rangers. Someone was talking about an EE Kit. I'm new at this but does anyone have a website or any information regarding that specific kit. I have a 2001 XLT 4.0L. Any comments regarding the prices for them are also welcome. Take care :nxsmile:

Go to explorerexpress.com , click on Xcharger. First you'll see a blower kit for the 5.0 explorer, but if you scroll down, you'll see the kit offered for 4.0 explorer/sport trac/ ranger. I guess it sits just right so that there are no hood clearance issues for all three vehicles. They want $3995 for the 4.0 kit, but I'm having a hard time finding anything else for the 2003 sport trac I want to buy. :banghead:

You rock :headbang: Thanks alot for the website. Any other information on this topic by others is still welcome!

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&category=33741&item=7986292137&sspagename=WDVW
its not the EE kit, but still a complete kit for a SOHC for a bit less :)...it doesnt mention WHICH charger is on there, but someone with more knowledge might be able to tell them apart :nixweiss: , but to me it looks like the m90....

Thanks alot. That's like half the price of the Xcharger. But I'm still looking around. Man, just imagine that thing under my hood. I'll be hauling major as*. Ha ha. Anyway, thanks for the reply and the link.

Personally I spent a day with Dave Vanek of EE and I wouldn't buy anything other than his blower, especially knowing all of the engineering that went in to the kit to clear the many, many obstacles to make the truck run right.

--Sean

Thanks man. At least you know the guy and probably already have it installed. Nice truck by the way. Once again any other infomation is more than welcome. Take care.

Leo

Dont forget Rons kit. http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rd=1&item=7974292766&category=36474&sspagename=WD1V He is a member here and I have bought his kit. Nicely done. You need to add a M90 supercharger but the kit gets you everything else you need to install it.

Personally I spent a day with Dave Vanek of EE and I wouldn't buy anything other than his blower, especially knowing all of the engineering that went in to the kit to clear the many, many obstacles to make the truck run right.

--Sean

sounds like you are a salesman for em IMO. the kit is only an m62 from EE correct? if you wanna get blown go talk to brian mcklevy (sp?) and doug from bama chips... you'll get all the info you'll need.

the "problem" with the EE kit itself is the charger, its only capable of approx 4psi....an m90 you can get a bit more. and for less i would go with either rons kit or the kit i linked too....but that is just me....

Thanks alot for the replies. I appreciate the inputs. What makes Ron's kit better than EE? Just more power or easier installation? Once again, thanks for taking the time to answer my retarded questions. :thumbsup:

They advertise 6psi? Being a 2.3T guy, I think it's hell of alot of moneyfor 4-6 psi! I reality, how much boost would you want to put through a 4.0? Do they come with hyperpuenetic internals (I know their not forged)(what about the rod design?)? 8 psi would be the absolute most in my mind, and I would certainly want an intercooler to go with that 8psi and cast internal ****tail. The new sport trac adrenaline comes with forged rods and pistons (if I'm not mistaken), that's an engine with potential! Anyway, I'm a little curious as to why any supercharger is not capable of making at least 6psi! 4psi is nothing! What limits it? I mean, the x-charger is a Screw type (eaton) super charger. EE must limit it either by the internal bypass, or the size of the pully. For only 4 to 6 psi, wouldn't a centrifical be more cost efficient? Remember folks I'm new to supers so don't be mad at my comments, but I'm interested in learning more so let me know what you think. :popcorn:

Superchargers have a size and are built to work on a certain range of engine displacements. The EE kit uses an Eaton M62 unit. Great unit, the suggested engine displacement for this unit is 1.8L-4.0L (might be aroung about the 1.8). So your looking a supercharger that is maxed out for the most part as soon as you bolt it on. The BBK kit that was put out for the OHV was the same way. Keep in mind, a few things. 1) More boost does not always equal more power. Sure I can put a super small pulley on any supercharger to spin it faster and have it push more air. But by spinning it faster it's going to create more heat, and as we all know heat is not your friend when your trying to make power. This is why going with a slightly larger supercharger will get you better results. You might produce the same amount of boost, but it's going to be cooler because the supercharger doesn't have to spin so hard to move that air. Cooler air = more power.

All that said, the EE kit isn't bad. It will boost your truck and give you a deffinate increase in power. There are pleanty of people who are, or have, run the kit and been very happy with the results. Now you can also get more power out of something that uses a larger supercharger even if you aren't building more boost simply because it's not going to be creating as much heat. So don't get stuck on the boost = power mind frame. Yes, it is slightly true. But it's not universal. You've got to think about the efficency.

Oh yeah, I've never been one to believe higher boost is always better (Tiny Avenger disproved that theory in a article in Muscle Mustangs & Fast Fords). But I never knew superchargers were built for displacement. In the world of turbos, you pretty much look for one that can build good psi (based on cfm flow of your engine) at the right power band for your engine. Even the small IHI's on the 2.3T are capable of 18psi, and they spool up pretty quick. In most any case with turbos, you're talkin' intercooler anyway. So I guess you just say get a super that can make 8-10 psi and an intercooler. But wait, the intercooler is going to drop it 3-4psi anyway; so sure you've got a super that makes 8psi but you have to cool it to make power so you're down to 4 or 5 psi again. It's all coming together. I have been enlightened :hail:

This is good stuff. Thanks. Man, I have to read those articles over and over again in order to understand them. Really educational. LOL! I would like to thank everyone of u for replying. :thumbsup:

So I guess you just say get a super that can make 8-10 psi and an intercooler. But wait, the intercooler is going to drop it 3-4psi anyway; so sure you've got a super that makes 8psi but you have to cool it to make power so you're down to 4 or 5 psi again. It's all coming together. I have been enlightened :hail:

If your loosing 3-4 psi from an intercooler than it's not worth the effort. I did a lot of reading up on air to air intercoolers last year and the general rule of thumb is 1-2 psi drop. Anymore than that, and you've actually placed a restriction in you intake tract and won't make up the power you lost from lower pressure through lower temps.

A very efficient way to cool down and not loose boost pressure but possibly even gain it is by using some sort of water/alcohol injection setup.

The water injection is something that I haven't looked into much. Some guy told my friend who has a turbo eclipse (I don't normally go around telling people I know ricers), that eventhough he has cast internals, he could run 10psi with water injection and it would be safe. I really don't think the water injection would cool that much better than a large intercooler. Also, is it really good to run water injection on a daily driver? I wouldn't think so, but then again, I wouldn't know.

What they've found over on the 2.3T board is that small intercoolers only cause a 1-2 psi drop. But they've also found that the small IC's don't seem to do much from 12 psi and up (the aceleration doesn't smooth out like the large ones). With the large IC's (ie powerstroke or big volvo), there is usually a 3-4 psi drop realized, yet power gains are achieved. Gotta find that middle ground, but I don't think an IC would be worth it for supers unless your talkin' 20psi root chargers which are generally not for daily drivers. And in that case, might as well go with the water injection.

Rons kit is not necessarily better than EEs, EEs kit i certainly nicer looking because of the cast parts versus welded parts, but Rons kit has a much nicer price. His kit plus a used M90 from Ebay... you could be around $1600 or less. That is less than half the price of the EE kit.

Thanks for the reply. Now, I have an idea about that.

I thought nobody should buy anything from the ron guy? Or was that someone else?

I thought nobody should buy anything from the ron guy? Or was that someone else?
i think your thinking of thomas knight.....the dude that sells all kinda of CRAP like electric superchargers and stuff, and some adaptor that hooks a m62 to our trucks (i think, or something along those lines). but i know thomas knight you need to be careful with, but i have no personal experience with him, just what i have read.....