Spngr311
Jul 25 2006, 08:06pm
Is E85 corrosive enough to ruin my aluminum fuel cell?
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View Full Version : E85 and Aluminum Fuel Cells? Spngr311 Jul 25 2006, 08:06pm Is E85 corrosive enough to ruin my aluminum fuel cell? e_powers Oct 16 2006, 09:29pm i dunno. i would suggest you run a little experiment . go get a littlebit in a e-85 approved gass can and pour some in a soda can. cap the can and let it sit for a few days. empty the can out and check the wall of the soda can for corrosion damage. Spngr311 Oct 17 2006, 03:25pm I read up on it some and it won't work. It's too corrosive and the aluminum won't work out so hot. garebel May 25 2008, 03:11pm I read up on it some and it won't work. It's too corrosive and the aluminum won't work out so hot. what do you think we haul the stuff in? aluminum tanker:mind-blow :secret: Spngr311 May 25 2008, 03:56pm Aluminum tankers with liners and a coating, not a sheet metal box. Thanks for diggng up a 2 year old post to add nothing. garebel May 25 2008, 04:09pm Aluminum tankers with liners and a coating, not a sheet metal box. Thanks for diggng up a 2 year old post to add nothing. wrong, no coating or lining in the tankers. so while the post maybe old, you are still just as clueless on the subject as when you started it. dumbass:thumbsup: Spngr311 May 26 2008, 07:56pm Here you go bud: http://www.cleanairtrust.org/E85-Handling-Storing-Distributing.html In the proper handling of E85, selecting the proper materials for this biofuel is the first and most important thing to do. It is essential to know that some materials react negatively when they are combined with high alcohol content fuel. For instance, car materials such as zinc, lead, aluminum, and brass are sensitive metals that degrade in the existence of a high-content alcohol mixture. Looks like someone needs to do some research. Thanks again. Gasoline and ethonal are two different fuels. The ethonal is much more corrosive than gas. Please let the thread die now. garebel May 29 2008, 05:52pm Here you go bud: http://www.cleanairtrust.org/E85-Handling-Storing-Distributing.html Looks like someone needs to do some research. Thanks again. Gasoline and ethonal are two different fuels. The ethonal is much more corrosive than gas. Please let the thread die now. being that you found it on the web it must be true:quagmire: ..... i haul all types of fuel..... including ethonal........ in a aluminum tanker.. :rip: even the tankers that haul 100% ethonal are aluminum..... bud:thumbsup: Spngr311 May 29 2008, 06:08pm The reason for using aluminum tanks is not sound. It is only a legacy issue - you have aluminum tankers, so you use them. You are probably inspecting them and maintaining them more than the average person will a sheet metal fuel cell. That does not change the fact that ethanol is corrosive and will eventually weaken the aluminum components. That is a fact. It is not one site, but GOVERNMENT and ethanol organiztion websites that express this issue of the corrosive nature of ethanol and aluminum. Sorry I only sited the top site I found and didn't give six sites or go into my materials and chemistry books to find a rebuttal for you. Try the research yourself, type Ethanol and Aluminum into google and let me know what you find. I mean, unless you already know everything. Just because you pump it/haul it doesn't mean you know it all. Jimmeh May 29 2008, 06:13pm wrong, no coating or lining in the tankers. so while the post maybe old, you are still just as clueless on the subject as when you started it. dumbass:thumbsup: Wow, 15 posts and you're already acting like a tough guy? Seriously. If you don't have any facts other then "I haul tankers for a living, so I know what I am talking about" then leave well enough alone. There is no need for calling a member that has been here longer then the both of us names. Show a little respect. BOSS 3.0 May 30 2008, 11:50am http://bulktransporter.com/management/tank-truck/kag_fleet_specs/index1.html Well, here is a bulk transport company that says they ARE seeing reports of pitting and seal degredation, so maybe it isn't a good idea - but then again, I found it on the web and I don't drive tanker trucks... :sad2: garebel May 30 2008, 05:46pm http://bulktransporter.com/management/tank-truck/kag_fleet_specs/index1.html Well, here is a bulk transport company that says they ARE seeing reports of pitting and seal degredation, so maybe it isn't a good idea - but then again, I found it on the web and I don't drive tanker trucks... :sad2: “I've heard about problems but haven't seen any firm documentation of the effects of ethanol on aluminum,” Molder says. “Ethanol hauling has gone on for a number of years already. It's only the volume that has changed. During the time I've been in this business, I've heard some rumblings about ethanol pitting the aluminum trailer or components. However, I haven't seen any proof or heard of any failures as a result of that. We transport many blends of ethanol up to 100%, and we've had no problems with any aluminum-constructed equipment.” lol... i have worked for kenan in the past.... anyway, i wasn't trying to start a pissing contest, just some real world info..... it is true it eats the cork gaskets and make the site glasses splinter and look funky..... but at present time no real damage to aluminum..... but better safe than sorry i guess..... it's ok boss nothing but love here :10: af>navy :tongue |