For those of you that don't know, this is my truck:

http://a867.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/14/l_d51c308c98cbb55df1acbbda23cdef9a.jpg

I've been saving since November, and by buying parts one by one, Accumulated enough parts to bag the front. 1/2 fill, 3/8 dump, FBSS set-up, 5 gal tank, 380 compressor, tank and compressor are already setup to valves for my airshocks, so I'm just tapping into that.

Progress, day 1:

Got it rolled in 1/05/07, up on jack stands, the wheels off, coils springs off, and started working on getting the spring brackets off.

http://img215.imageshack.us/img215/9045/1507001gb2.jpg

http://img209.imageshack.us/img209/1183/1507002cg8.jpg

I only had about 2 hours or so to work on it, so I just got one rivet cut off, and another one started, hopefully after work tomorrow I'll get the driver's side bracket off and start work on the passenger's side.

Yesterday I got the driver's side bracket off and started work on the passenger side, also got stuff relocated on the passenger's side and got valves ran and wired on both sides... WOOT! all this from 8-11pm.

http://img206.imageshack.us/img206/8948/1607001me8.jpg

http://img135.imageshack.us/img135/687/1607002tl6.jpg

http://img135.imageshack.us/img135/9597/1607003ta0.jpg

^^those are not hanging like that anymore, I moved them back and up under a piece of the body, so that the dirt and crap wont fly into the valves. And I realized if I can move them with my hand, my truck will definitely move them while in motion.

http://img206.imageshack.us/img206/8701/1607004im6.jpg

Tomorrow its the passenger's side bracket off, and grinded smooth, finish relocating the passenger's side, cut the inner fender wells, mock wheels and tires and see what needs to be cut on the pass. side. Driver's side will probably get trimmed back and the abs relocated, battery turned, and then the drop beams will be grinded and prepped for welding on both sides.

Looken good man. Cant wait to see this thing all done i think its gonna look nice. :thumbsup:

looks dope. keep us posted.

Looking Good man, bet ur ready to get it finished! haha

Yeah I am, today I got the passenger's side bracket off and the valves relocated, wired up.

I'm sick so it made progress today really slow. More pics to come tomorrow.

((I also was introduced to my first body-drop victim today, a squarebody S-10.))

Can you get the pics of both sides in the engine because I am doing this stuff, time to get the 20's on? Are you nothching for the tie rods as well? JIMMY

Can you get the pics of both sides in the engine because I am doing this stuff, time to get the 20's on? Are you nothching for the tie rods as well? JIMMY
I will get lots and lots of pictures, I'm hoping this may turn into a write up.

not for 20's, I'm hoping that with my 14's on a 235/60 I wont have to notch for the tie-rods, but I will tackle that too if necessary.
It should lay crossmember with my shock tabs relocated and my airshocks.

Also, This is going to turn in to a Bolt-On/Weld-on set-up, so that if (for some strange reason) a weld breaks, the bracket wont move and I will be able to drive for awhile to get to a safe place, and my truck wont fall into a million pieces lol.

not looking to bad.

airshocks in the front?

airshocks in the front?
huh? no most definitely not.

Ok, last night I got the passenger side bracket off and started to cut the inner fender well on the passenger side. Didnt get too much done after that cuz I've been sick since saturday night, so with a fever and a headache it makes working on it a real pain.

but hopefully with some good rest and alot of fluids, today I will be able to catch up.

Looks good so far, but why not go ahead and puts some bags in the rear while your at it?

Looks good so far, but why not go ahead and puts some bags in the rear while your at it?
Good thought, but since I am living on $800/month, it makes it difficult.

I could just do a bag over axle on a mono leaf, but I'd rather do it right, the first time out, so I'll save up, and hopefully around mid february-early march I'll have enough to bag the rear, bag over bar, triangulated 4 link, shock relocator...the works.

Sounds good man. I got a SD.com 4 link sittin here in my room. I need to get rid of it. If u get some money and want one let me know...Looking good though. Cant wait to see some progress..

I'm taking alot of pictures because I'm hoping to turn this into a write up for bagging an ibeam ranger, since either no-one has pics, or no-one really knows how, I figured I'd go ahead and do a write up and that way hopefully most of the questions will get answered.

Here are the progress pics for the day:

Got the passenger bracket off
http://img208.imageshack.us/img208/8148/1807002xa1.jpg
Mocked up the wheel and tire on pass side
http://img218.imageshack.us/img218/2815/1807003zq8.jpg
Another look-see in the passenger side of the engine
http://img488.imageshack.us/img488/9676/1807005ci3.jpg
Grind down ibeam
http://img214.imageshack.us/img214/4218/1807007yi3.jpg
Mock lower plate
http://img223.imageshack.us/img223/7115/1807008ij0.jpg
Welded it in
http://img219.imageshack.us/img219/2053/1807014vs9.jpg
Repeated on other side

Body work:
http://img219.imageshack.us/img219/7757/1807016ez6.jpg
http://img223.imageshack.us/img223/3721/1807018nn0.jpg

Tomorrow I'm notching for the tie rods, More body work, and perhaps some relocation, and lastly, the upper plate will be welded in, so that wendseday will be all bolt on re-assembly and working out kinks.

Man are you ever doing this at the right time! Thank you for your thoroughness in the pic department. Keep up the good work man.

What brand weld on I-beam brackets are those?? Looks good dude.:thumbsup:

Looks great so far, could you get some pics a little futher away of the pass side engine work. Thanks JIMMY

Looks great so far, could you get some pics a little futher away of the pass side engine work. Thanks JIMMY

No problem:
http://img223.imageshack.us/img223/4839/1807006pc9.jpg

What brand weld on I-beam brackets are those?? Looks good dude.:thumbsup:
Suicide Doors, they are working great, but we'll see when its all back together

Man are you ever doing this at the right time! Thank you for your thoroughness in the pic department. Keep up the good work man.
No problem, Like I said, I was hoping this would help.
Also I was hoping this might change other people opinions of what a HACKJOB MY TRUCK IS...*******s... lol.

((I also was introduced to my first body-drop victim today, a squarebody S-10.))

Heres a pic:
http://img255.imageshack.us/img255/8132/1707004th9.jpg

87 I think, its a 4cyl TBI, New lower control arms, needs spindles and then we can bag it, but it will probably get body dropped first since it doesn have a dash, a/c, brake booster, or any of the crap thats usually in the way!

:thumbsup:

Probably a good idea to tack in the suspension and give it a test run before you weld everything solid like that. Its gonna be a bitch if you end up wanting to change any angles etc.

Probably a good idea to tack in the suspension and give it a test run before you weld everything solid like that. Its gonna be a bitch if you end up wanting to change any angles etc.
Measure twice, cut once!

If you see the picture with the tire up in the wheel well, that was me making sure that the lower plate has the correct placement throughout the entire suspension travel, which it does, and it was only tacked in place while checking the set up.

But I do appreciate the advice. :wiggle:

You dont have upper brackets in, so I dont see how you could have tested the bag angles. I'm not trying to pick on you. I'm just saying, on the ranger I did, I ended up cutting the SD lowers apart and getting rid of the angle on them. Then I made new uppers all together.
http://www.houseofkohler.com/customers/josh/josh7.jpg
Bag stays nearly perfect throughout travel and its not at a crazy lean like the SD brackets.

You dont have upper brackets in, so I dont see how you could have tested the bag angles. I'm not trying to pick on you. I'm just saying, on the ranger I did, I ended up cutting the SD lowers apart and getting rid of the angle on them. Then I made new uppers all together.
Not really an option for me.

Whatever Angle the lower brackets are, when fully laid out (suspension all the way up) I'm going to set the upper bracket at that angle, I wasnt testing bag angles, I was testing the lower brackets horizontal placement to insure that the plate, and the bag, wouldnt rub against the frame at full lift, or aird out.

I know you werent trying to pick on me, I dont have the funds, nor the time to make new brackets, or send these back, so I'm working with these and I'm making the best of it. :clapclap:

Well keep goin with it. Hopefully it all turns out. I know alot of the problems I had were with the SD brackets and 20s. I've got 2 rangers to do soon, both set up for 18s. One guy's got the SD brackets already so I might give em a chance again. I've seen the results of them poorly installed though first hand. Its not pretty.
http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d153/illblazer/Random/P1010035.jpg

Are those cobwebs on those bags? LOL. That does look a touch rough with all tht rubbing so Im guessing thats why there are cobwebs, doesnt want to drive it too much.

Hey Morrison. Good start tho man. Glad to see another bagged truck starting to enter the scene. Question though. Why stick with those tires you mentioned before and whats the OD of them?

Why stick with those tires you mentioned before and whats the OD of them?

Because you would never expect him too I reckon.


... and where's my progress pictures! I'm hitting roadblock after roadblock with mine so I want to see someone getting somewhere so I can be inspired. lol.

Hey Morrison. Good start tho man. Glad to see another bagged truck starting to enter the scene. Question though. Why stick with those tires you mentioned before and whats the OD of them?

Outside diameter is 26inches on those tires, and agian, I'm sticking with them becuase on $800 a month with about $200 a month play money, spending a grand on wheels and tires just aint happening, Until im done working on it, hopefully soon!


... and where's my progress pictures! I'm hitting roadblock after roadblock with mine so I want to see someone getting somewhere so I can be inspired. lol.

HERE YAH GO!

HOLE:
http://img475.imageshack.us/img475/4520/1907001cj9.jpg
Filler
http://img149.imageshack.us/img149/1337/1907002de9.jpg
HOLE+FILLER=
http://img464.imageshack.us/img464/4226/1907004gp7.jpg
http://img464.imageshack.us/img464/1919/1907005cw9.jpg
Upper mount, mocking the bag:
http://img204.imageshack.us/img204/462/1907009rt0.jpg
http://img464.imageshack.us/img464/4183/1907011tz9.jpg
Stupid ground fell off in the middle of my bead so I had to go over it agian, thats why its double beaded and ****ty looking right there.... BUT ITS STRONG NOW! lol
INSTALLED:
http://img223.imageshack.us/img223/9661/1907012jl3.jpg
http://img208.imageshack.us/img208/7757/1907015kc3.jpg


Thats the passenger side, set to lay on 18's, wont lay 20's without notching the frame for the radius arm, but my tie rods have plenty of clearance and so does my engine crossmember.

Its done, and all that is left on the driver's side is to cut that stupid peice of frame, weld in the upper plate, and mount the bag, set it down, check it, then tear it down for paint :rock:

Why thank you :thumbsup:

lol, should have the drivers side done, and be rollin and draggin tomorrow :thumbsup:

IM WAY AHEAD OF SCHEDULE!

THose are the pics I have been waiting for for the notching. Looks great. JIMMY

looking good man... cant wait to see it laid out!

nice work man! im going from 18in. wheels to 20s soon. i hope i don't come across too many problems with the bag brackets already in place that were mocked up for 18...

keep up the good work!

lookin good bro.

that looks great no rubbing at all from the way it looks and is that a 2600 bag you have up front? I might have to get some now just to do it I want to put slams up front so bad I just want to make sure theyll fit right so I take it they do?

You runnin shocks?

that looks great no rubbing at all from the way it looks and is that a 2600 bag you have up front? I might have to get some now just to do it I want to put slams up front so bad I just want to make sure theyll fit right so I take it they do?
well those are 25's, but judging by the look of it, I may be able to fit a 26, I'm gunna get some for the back, and I will mock them up up front and let you know.

You runnin shocks?
I will be, I gotta go to Home depot and get a grade 8 bolt, run it off the back at the angle to match the lower one on the radius arms, and just use rear shocks up front.

Looks great man, can't wait to see it rollin.

Great pics!!

I've got an entire air bag suspension from SD to install on my 91 S/C & I was wondering about the funky angles on the front bag mounts!!

Thanks for the pics, it all makes sense now!:mind-blow

Trev

hope you dont forget to cut out the frame's wierd countours on the drivers side before you put that plate on, so it sits flat against the frame. Also, its probably temporary, but I suggest something better than zip-ties for holding up your valves. Other than that, looks good this time.

hope you dont forget to cut out the frame's wierd countours on the drivers side before you put that plate on, so it sits flat against the frame. Also, its probably temporary, but I suggest something better than zip-ties for holding up your valves. Other than that, looks good this time.

all that is left on the driver's side is to cut that stupid peice of frame

Seems to have a good handle on things.

Seems to have a good handle on things.

just trying to help, and make sure he keeps up on the right track he is on. there are alot of "stupid pieces of frame" to cut if you wanna lay.

Your welds look decent too man. Again, good job this time, not trying to pick on you... (I wasn't last time either)...just giving advice.


I think you have my screen name if you have any hiccups. Make sure that the bag is sitting perfect when fully compressed. Looks decent from the pics so far, but make sure you do so on the drivers side. Otherwise, your going to contort the living hell outta your bags.

Hey man, I was just looking at your pics again... Did you buy radius arm relocators? If not you might want to look into it.

nice work i am about to start to bag the front of my 89 and i love the fact u are going to make a tech article on this!!!

Hey man, I was just looking at your pics again... Did you buy radius arm relocators? If not you might want to look into it.

Not yet, but I know all about them, and I will be getting some too, I gotta buy books for school and some other stuff first.

nice work i am about to start to bag the front of my 89 and i love the fact u are going to make a tech article on this!!!
YOUR WELCOME lol, all in all, I think this was a good build thus far.

just trying to help, and make sure he keeps up on the right track he is on. there are alot of "stupid pieces of frame" to cut if you wanna lay.

Your welds look decent too man. Again, good job this time, not trying to pick on you... (I wasn't last time either)...just giving advice.


I think you have my screen name if you have any hiccups. Make sure that the bag is sitting perfect when fully compressed. Looks decent from the pics so far, but make sure you do so on the drivers side. Otherwise, your going to contort the living hell outta your bags.

It lays, and hard, the drivers side looks just like the passengers side, and I know your not picking on me, You were one of the people I was hoping would see this thread and make positive remarks, and yes, the zip ties are temporary.


Here are some teasers to hold you guys buy, my friends wrote these on my windows lol, but yeah, I'm not posting any more pics until tomorrow, but I have 80 pictures alltogether, with probably about 70 that are important, the rest are funny like these ones that follow.

well, I brought the truck home today, and I think I fell in love again, but I'm not posting pics until after tomorrow night, and again here are a few teasers:

http://img92.imageshack.us/img92/3276/finished023dl8.jpg
http://img396.imageshack.us/img396/9241/finished024eg0.jpg
http://img92.imageshack.us/img92/3226/finished025ng6.jpg

dammit, you messed up my night. I stayed up late for nothing. For shame. Congrats bro!

dammit, you messed up my night. I stayed up late for nothing. For shame. Congrats bro!
hahaha what exactly do you want to see, i might be able to dig it out...

and here is my truck...

http://img464.imageshack.us/img464/4153/finished021cl4.jpg

Looks good man, waiting on my parts to come in so I can finish mine.

Looks good man, waiting on my parts to come in so I can finish mine.
yeah, and mine cambers in hardcore, my friend had some 17s, so i bolted them up, check this out lol:
http://img214.imageshack.us/img214/867/finished011ko2.jpg

HOLLAH!

LOL, Cant wait to see yours done too bro.

That looks good :thumbsup: it makes me want bags even more lol

hahaha what exactly do you want to see, i might be able to dig it out...

and here is my truck...

http://img464.imageshack.us/img464/4153/finished021cl4.jpg

Nothing in particular, just enjoy seeing pictures lol.

http://img216.imageshack.us/img216/583/finished004zh5.jpg
http://img216.imageshack.us/img216/4696/finished005qb0.jpg
Passenger side painted:
http://img216.imageshack.us/img216/6219/finished012qc7.jpg
Drivers:
http://img216.imageshack.us/img216/9569/finished013ck3.jpg
A Piece I made for SoccorJimmy for his tie-rods:
http://img367.imageshack.us/img367/1995/finished007fg8.jpg

I'll get pics of the engine bay when its daytime.

Didnt you have to notch for the drivers side tie rods? I may need another one made for the drivers side. Thanks again and the truck looks better everytime. Now get the back done. JIMMY

I didnt have to notch the drivers side, because the radius arm hit the frame on that side before the tie rod did.

Looks great bro, Im glad to see you finally got it to go up and down!



Now go catch a good whiff of steel+asphalt no other smell like it....

nothing too structurally critical, but when you are bored sometime, make a filler for that notched out section on the drivers side. When it comes time to 4-link it, hit me up on AIM.

wow, i've never seen a thread with so many "suggestions".

wow, i've never seen a thread with so many "suggestions".

lol I guess you didnt see his post in snapshots on what he did in the back..

lol I guess you didnt see his post in snapshots on what he did in the back..

Oh boy..lol.. the back..

great pics and excellent progress on it Im sure it will help out greatly when I get sporto to bag his.

lol I guess you didnt see his post in snapshots on what he did in the back..

LOL

nothing too structurally critical, but when you are bored sometime, make a filler for that notched out section on the drivers side. When it comes time to 4-link it, hit me up on AIM.
Yeah I was going to do that anyways to the drivers side, so thx for the advice.

I'm going to do the back the same way I did the front, no advice, just buy all the right crap and do it. Please see next paragraph:

wow, i've never seen a thread with so many "suggestions".

Thats because people see you make one mistake, and they automatically assume you dont know what the **** you are talking about. I'm over it, I dont want any response to this, as far as I'm concerned its in the past.

For the back, I'm doing a triangulated 4 link, 36 inch bars, bag on bar, lower bars are 2x3 square and 1/4 inch thickness, upper bars will be round and adjustable to allow for side to side action. Also, they will be poly-eurathane bushings.

I picked up my fuel cell today, 15 gallon drag cell, with an external fuel pump. Saturday the spare tire rack comes off and the fuel cell will be installed.

looking real good man

i saw all these this morning on sr

looking real good man

i saw all these this morning on sr
yeah, thats a pretty good sight there, just needs some more activity! lol.

yeah it does it will pick up it aint but about a month or so old

looking real good man

i saw all these this morning on sr


hahaha I thought you said I'm looking for a really good man...

:lol:

36" BARS????? holy crap mine are only 26.5" as are most rangers. Not trying to hate but you will have to run a rear facing link for that there is only 7" between my crossmember and cab for the uppers and your bars are 10" longer than mine. Any reason for so long?

36" BARS????? holy crap mine are only 26.5" as are most rangers. Not trying to hate but you will have to run a rear facing link for that there is only 7" between my crossmember and cab for the uppers and your bars are 10" longer than mine. Any reason for so long?
Thats what me and my team measured out so I could get a lot of lift. I'm shooting for upwards of 15 inches.

my upper bars may be a bit shorter, but I went to a shop and they said that they would run a 36 inch bar too for the setup I want. BTW I'm not using the stock spring perches, obviously, lol.

LOL, obviously, but just fyi I'm going to get around 15" with 26.5" bars. Mine is bag on bar. Its all about where you place the bag. And if your uppers and lowers aren't close to the same length your pivots will be off and your pinion will not flow as smooth, just food for thought. The distance from the stock hangers to the center of the axle on most rangers is around 26.5" and most cantis with 26-28" bars get 15+ inches of lift.

28" bars

http://img135.imageshack.us/img135/1594/picture063ec8.jpg

well, as much lift as i can get, I'm going with the longest bar that I can of CLOSE to equal length. Just because I want be to go WTF?!

i had 26.5" bars on mine and i put the bags as close to the front perch as possible, and i got 25" of lift out of the back...you will never use more than 10" of lift out of the back. cause after that you start binding up your u-joints. not only that, if you get your bags to close to the center of your truck you won't get any lift at all.

i had 26.5" bars on mine and i put the bags as close to the front perch as possible, and i got 25" of lift out of the back...you will never use more than 10" of lift out of the back. cause after that you start binding up your u-joints. not only that, if you get your bags to close to the center of your truck you won't get any lift at all.

Yup my pinion starts getting bad after 10". You can get the same lift with 26" bars and 36" bars.

yep

http://img216.imageshack.us/img216/583/finished004zh5.jpg
http://img216.imageshack.us/img216/4696/finished005qb0.jpg
Passenger side painted:
http://img216.imageshack.us/img216/6219/finished012qc7.jpg
Drivers:
http://img216.imageshack.us/img216/9569/finished013ck3.jpg
A Piece I made for SoccorJimmy for his tie-rods:
http://img367.imageshack.us/img367/1995/finished007fg8.jpg

I'll get pics of the engine bay when its daytime.


good lord at the angle you got them brackets at.. i got the same SD brackets and i didn't put that much angle on them.. i straightened them up and burned me a new mounting whole in the bottom bracket for the bag to sit out more.. its still angling towards the cab but not that much.. if i had pics i would show you.. but i wouldn't put them brackets at that much of a angle..

cant really see it but heres the best pic i have..

http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l285/hardlivinlow/DSCF0888.jpg

mine are rat right around the same angle and i have had no problems...i wouldn't have cut up the upper bracket like that...but everybody has their own methods.

when you put your raised radius arm x-member in, you will change the angle of your lower mount which will mean you will have to change the angle of your upper mount...if you don't keep them both at the same angle, you will run into problems with premature bag wear, twisting the bag more than what it is designed to be, and even possibly tearing or puncturing the bag.

I can't believe they don't rub.

mine are rat right around the same angle and i have had no problems...i wouldn't have cut up the upper bracket like that...but everybody has their own methods.

when you put your raised radius arm x-member in, you will change the angle of your lower mount which will mean you will have to change the angle of your upper mount...if you don't keep them both at the same angle, you will run into problems with premature bag wear, twisting the bag more than what it is designed to be, and even possibly tearing or puncturing the bag.
Well when I go in to make it lay frame, after I bag the rear, I'm going to be ditching those and making my own front brackets to hold a RE7 vs a RE6.

I can't believe they don't rub.
Why's that?

I mean I really hate to say it, but I think I did alright considering some I've seen:

Look at the bag rub here:
http://img145.imageshack.us/img145/4452/69958141fullek3.jpg
Look at the angle of this one, does that look better??? Cuz to me, it looks like the bag would be TWISTED when layed out, and that really puts wear on a bag.
http://img136.imageshack.us/img136/4391/32033457bg4.jpg
This one is just plain scary, sorry bro but AH!
http://i103.photobucket.com/albums/m123/nightmare_311/IMAG0002.jpg

Here is the one I modeled my truck after, Minimal rubbing, good angle, and a decent amount of lift:
http://img441.imageshack.us/img441/8540/1jr8.jpg

Yo man, care to share some more pics from your archive? I don't have any of those saved (I've been collecting pictures for reference for some time now).

do you have an email? I'll zip them in zip file and send them to yah, I got over 100 pictures.

cant really see it but heres the best pic i have..

http://i99.photobucket.com/albums/l285/hardlivinlow/DSCF0888.jpg

minus the painted bag and fitting that looks pretty good. Hows the angle lifted?
It looks to me like you mounted the lowers at a bit of an angle to level out the mounting plate.

i wana bag a ranger with a set of "standard brackets" i allways make my own and never used the traditional way. humm maybe i will get 1 to install some day lol.

You can make the short trip to NC and do mine.

Why's that?

Maybe your wheels and tires are smaller than I think, but with that much angle you normally lose turning radius. This is a tech thread to help others, so it's just a heads up :tongue:

Also the radius brackets will move the arms out so they don't hit the frame.

Maybe your wheels and tires are smaller than I think, but with that much angle you normally lose turning radius. This is a tech thread to help others, so it's just a heads up :tongue:

Also the radius brackets will move the arms out so they don't hit the frame.
so with raised radius arm crossmember I wont have to notch the frame at the radius arm to lay 20's? awesome!

oh thanks, I appreciate it, my wheels are 14x7.5, stock wheel offset, with a 235/60/14. 27 inches tall.

your not gona lay frame withought relocated radius arms. and you need to relocate your radius arms before you even start to do any bracket install. thats probably 1 of the most important things to remember on a ranger with ibeams. is radius arms before bag brackets or you will not have the right geometry.

your not gona lay frame withought relocated radius arms. and you need to relocate your radius arms before you even start to do any bracket install. thats probably 1 of the most important things to remember on a ranger with ibeams. is radius arms before bag brackets or you will not have the right geometry.


come on.. permanently ****ed caster is cool.

come on.. permanently ****ed caster is cool.

LOL, man this is why I love 98+ just put some cups in and have a nice day haha.

LOL, man this is why I love 98+ just put some cups in and have a nice day haha.

Don't forget the air shocks..jk. :loltard:

Don't forget the air shocks..jk. :loltard:
o man. lol

Don't forget the air shocks..jk. :loltard:
Hey Ramin, here I am trying to help this site out with info on how to to bag an IBEAM ranger, and here you are bring up crap that is completely unrelated to this topic.

YOU HAVE A PM, so that this thread doesnt get locked, and can continue to serve as an informational thread.

LOL, man this is why I love 98+ just put some cups in and have a nice day haha.

someone must have stolen your donut today :naughty:

thanks for talking **** about me on PM's man. I helped bag an I-beam ranger when you were ****ing 13 years old. Have fun in your deathtrap, im not impressed. And if you're going to write "the how to" on how to bag an I-beam ranger, atleast do it right.

I think we have seen enough of this thread. It just floors me someone trys to help, and someone has to post up crap.



Thank you that is all.
Ricky