View Full Version : My own bagging process! (mass pictures)


tehzack
Jan 11 2007, 07:22pm
Okay, admittedly i'm not as expeditious as our dear friend Smorrison, but I am making strides finally towards getting my truck lower to da erf. I got all my fittings today from Brian (slammedxonair). Let me tell you... I gave this guy possibly the worst description ever of what I needed parts wise but I just got done putting everything together and mocking up my components and he came through for me in a big way. Everything went together perfectly and I couldn't be happier with everything. So basically this is what I've got:

http://img100.imageshack.us/img100/4500/afittings001yt5.jpg


http://img388.imageshack.us/img388/7710/afittings002ys9.jpg


http://img388.imageshack.us/img388/5427/afittings003ds0.jpg


http://img444.imageshack.us/img444/792/afittings004ro0.jpg


http://img100.imageshack.us/img100/7115/afittings005uv3.jpg


http://img101.imageshack.us/img101/7761/afittings006sq2.jpg


http://img444.imageshack.us/img444/2927/afittings007cx9.jpg


http://img413.imageshack.us/img413/3549/afittings008yt8.jpg

The last pic shows the only parts I lack yet. I forgot to tell him I needed the fittings to connect the airlines to my guages... oops.

[shameless plug] If you guys need any help with bagging or suspension stuff don't be afraid to shoot Brian a line, even if you're not buying anything he's a really helpful/knowledgable guy. [/shameless plug]

nfamus10
Jan 11 2007, 07:23pm
cool. those all PTC or do i spy some compression fittings?

tehzack
Jan 11 2007, 07:30pm
all ptc

complexdesigns
Jan 11 2007, 09:32pm
Airlift bags? Are you sure?

tehzack
Jan 11 2007, 09:46pm
airlift? Whats wrong with that? Is there like a recall or something I don't know about?

Alex4R
Jan 11 2007, 11:12pm
From what I hear they are made pretty cheap. You can tell by just looking at them.

Smorrison1
Jan 11 2007, 11:43pm
airlift? Whats wrong with that? Is there like a recall or something I don't know about?
They sell them buy 2 bags, get 2 free... cuz you will need the other 2.

MAXIMUM RECOMENDED PSI: 100 pounds.

I roll around on my slams at 80 psi, but they will inflate to 180 no problem. The airlift bags, as well as firestone and conitech, they are all *crimped* to the plates, so they tend to seperate from the plate and blow.

or at least thats what I've heard!

Hope All my pictures help, and stay away from compression fittings, they leak like CRAZY if they arent perfectly striaght.

Ankle Biter
Jan 11 2007, 11:51pm
nice zack

ill help you with yours if you help me with mine LOL

Smorrison1
Jan 11 2007, 11:54pm
oh yeah, youll be very happy with that tank and the 380, with a pressure switch and a leak free system, thats all the air you ever need

:5stars:

iLLblazer
Jan 12 2007, 09:00am
I think airlift is the only brand that uses a strictly crimp design on its bellows style bags. Its basically a big hose clamp holding the bag to the end plate. The other brands use a roll crimp design, which is different. Airlift is the only brand I have seen seperate from the end plate. Also, I have had problems with the pressed in thread inserts leaking. (end plates are composite with a pressed in port..all other brands have metal end plates with threads built in)
The nice thing about Airlift is that as long as you talk to the right people over there, they will look after any problems you encounter. I'm sure the same thing can be said about other companies, but I've only had warranty concerns with Airlift.

complexdesigns
Jan 12 2007, 09:30am
I think airlift is the only brand that uses a strictly crimp design on its bellows style bags. Its basically a big hose clamp holding the bag to the end plate. The other brands use a roll crimp design, which is different. Airlift is the only brand I have seen seperate from the end plate. Also, I have had problems with the pressed in thread inserts leaking. (end plates are composite with a pressed in port..all other brands have metal end plates with threads built in)
The nice thing about Airlift is that as long as you talk to the right people over there, they will look after any problems you encounter. I'm sure the same thing can be said about other companies, but I've only had warranty concerns with Airlift.
Yes they will replace bags but I would rather not have to replace one.

iLLblazer
Jan 12 2007, 10:26am
Thats kind of what I was getting at. We dont use them anymore unless a customer bought them before we had a chance to tell them otherwise. I gotta do a ranger install coming up with some and I'd rather not use them, since its one of my best friends trucks and I know hes not all that mechanical so if he ever had a blowout on the side of the road I'd be getting that 2am phonecall. haha.

Tuckin Eh
Jan 12 2007, 11:23am
I've had airlift bags and compression fitting for 3 years now, never had any probems. and my buddy's rolling around on the same airlift bags for 6 years now, and never had any problems. and he overinflates them like crazy. even hopped on em a few times. I don't doubt that people have had problems, but I'm just telling a few examples of people that havent. I like mine because they have the lowest collapsed height of any other bag.

iLLblazer
Jan 12 2007, 11:49am
how do you figure??

Minimum Heights for 2500/re6 size bags
Firestone: 2.8"
Contitech: 3"
Airlift 2b6: 2.8"
Slams: 2.8"

2600lb/re7 size
Firstone:2.8"
Contitech:3.1"
Airlift 2b7: 2.9"
Slam Specialties:2.8

Tuckin Eh
Jan 12 2007, 12:11pm
that's odd then my buddies must have soem sort of defect in their slams, cuz none of em compress lower than mine. I wanted to get slams and I opted not to just based on what i saw on their trucks. if these number are fact then helll, i'm going out and buying some

iLLblazer
Jan 12 2007, 01:15pm
Those numbers are all from the manufacturers websites.
Slams take alot more weight to compress.

slammedxonair
Jan 12 2007, 01:22pm
hey man im glad to see you got it all figured out and that your happy. thanks for the props too.

tehzack
Jan 12 2007, 09:20pm
Well damn. My parade just got all kinds of rained on. Lol, such is life.

Ranger4x4.0
Jan 13 2007, 08:30am
slams have an internal bumpstop making their bags harder to collapse. RE-7's take about 400ish lbs or force to get them to that 2.8", whereas it only takes about 50-90ish for the competitors. Depending on where you have your bags mounted, its probably hard to get 400lbs or force on each corner, especially in the rear.


Im still running airlifts on my rear setup. You have to use the rollplates for Airlift to honor their warrenty too, btw. Acutally, running airlifts without the rollplates is mildly retarded, due to their ****ty design.


And I guess you have to talk to the right people.... They made my friend send his bags back twice for an evaluation to determine if they would honor their warrenty or not. Maybe its just me, I would rather not get to know the warrenty people for the product that holds my life up. Maybe ill just buy stones now before my trucks rolling.

slammedxonair
Jan 13 2007, 12:45pm
yea not to talk crap on air lift because i have seen then last, but when we were in kentucky for a meet my friends dime was just sittin there with all of our trucks in the parking lot about3-4 inches off the ground and his truck slammed on the ground. well after jacking it up and figureing out what happened the crimp on the bag blew just sitting there. we all thought he had a wireless remote.

msturg
Jan 16 2007, 07:13am
never again will I run airlifts. I had pretty good run with them and they weren't terrible, hell I "hopped" on them a couple of times myself. However when I did my tear down for the Z I noticed that they were forming in a certain direction, as in they were lopsided. This caused them to rub as well since they were lopsided and they also expand out

http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/8/web/248000-248999/248636_112.jpg

on another note, I had one blow apart, it was my fault however. I didn't completely support the rearend when I had it up in the air, my little jack wouldn't lift high enough apparently. It exploded with me underneath the truck, pulling apart the crimped end.

iLLblazer
Jan 16 2007, 08:53am
yeah the good old airlift lean. you think thats bad, you should see them after a couple of years on an s10.

slammedxonair
Jan 16 2007, 07:27pm
yea those are really bad on s10s lol

clenzer72
Jan 16 2007, 10:16pm
Maybe ill just buy stones now before my trucks rolling.

Why wouldn't you go with Slam? Key points...better pressure rating, more lift, don't expand outward.............

msturg
Jan 16 2007, 10:20pm
he drives a chevy, and it's a fullsize, what do you expect?














just messing with you man, lol.

complexdesigns
Jan 16 2007, 10:28pm
Why wouldn't you go with Slam? Key points...better pressure rating, more lift, don't expand outward.............

You forgot ride better and are only $5 more.

quest51210
Jan 17 2007, 12:47am
wheres the process? just few pics of some parts? no cutting or anything

Mightygreenrang
Jan 17 2007, 09:52am
I will be putting slams on the front of my truck soon, my airlifts are starting to lean.

tehzack
Jan 17 2007, 04:59pm
wheres the process? just few pics of some parts? no cutting or anything

There is no progress holmes. College takes up a lot of time.

Ranger4x4.0
Jan 17 2007, 05:58pm
Why wouldn't you go with Slam? Key points...better pressure rating, more lift, don't expand outward.............


I have slam RE-7's up front and love them. The problem is that I built the rear setup for a collapsed height of the airlift bag. I really dont care what the doccumentation says, from my experience, a slam bag takes way more weight to collapse, and even fully collapsed, the minimum height is larger due to the internal bumpstop. Also, remember the blausplash? The stones that were on that truck are still in use today by a friend of mine. Stones ride fine and have proven themselves durable enough for use on my truck. Im running the bags leverage style on the lower 4-link bars. Airlifts even ride good on this setup.

Mightygreenrang
Jan 17 2007, 10:22pm
I'm going to leave the airlifts 2600's on the rear of mine. As far as airlift goes I've only had one blow in 3 years and that was my fault for overextending the bag when I jacked the truck up. The only reason I'm getting them off the front is because of the leaning they are doing.

quest51210
Jan 17 2007, 11:19pm
I'm going to leave the airlifts 2600's on the rear of mine. As far as airlift goes I've only had one blow in 3 years and that was my fault for overextending the bag when I jacked the truck up. The only reason I'm getting them off the front is because of the leaning they are doing.
do you know wade? Screen name Skyjacker_44? i need to ask him about his bagged ranger.

DCSHOECOUSA
Jan 18 2007, 07:40am
has anyone seen or heard of this problem before mine the center ring of the bag like cam apart from the bag I circled what im talking about

http://home.quickclic.net/~bonnie.dawson/AIRLIFT.jpg

Mightygreenrang
Jan 18 2007, 09:19am
do you know wade? Screen name Skyjacker_44? i need to ask him about his bagged ranger.

Yes haven't talked to him in ages though.

As far as the centers I've never had one of mine nor observed any airlifts blow out the centers or even show wear.

DCSHOECOUSA
Jan 18 2007, 09:01pm
weird I'll get pics of it.....the bag isn't blown either still holds air......