thinking about puttin bags on the outside link bars? is this a good idea? would suicidedoors kit work for this? please post pics. Thx guys:mind-blow

http://suicidedoors.com/SuperLliftWishboneKit.php

thats the kit I would of personally used if I where only going up and down

http://suicidedoors.com/SuperLift,SuperPivot4-LinkKit.php

that I would use for side to side because of the super pivots. longer bars work better for mad lift

Yes both of those are good choices, i bought the super lift super pivot one for my ranger a while back. Hell i never used it its brand new under my bed. But the link is beefy as hell SD.com has good stuff.

bags on bars with super pivots=twisted mess. especially because you will need to offset the bags on a ranger to have enough frame clearance.

haha I'm putting my bags on top but yeah I know what you mean they do rub if you dont make your own bracket for the tabs on for the lower links

Bags should go on the lower parallel bars... super pivots on the upper triangulated bars.

Bags should go on the lower parallel bars... super pivots on the upper triangulated bars.

Thats actually what I figured in my head last night

would i get to much twist on the bars if i went on the parallel bar? i have the 4 link and am going to bolt it on the stock leave spring mount in front it is a universal tri.

you got it that fast?

i have had the kit i wanted to know about he brackets where to locate them sorry. new to the whole loewered thing so just seeing what does and doesnt work

depends on how big and thick your bars are.

1.5 inch round. i dont know how thick they are but they are heavy

If they are 1.5" you are going ot need to gusset the lowers to mount the bags on them. Otherwise the bars will bend under the stress.

how would you do that? any suggestions? would like to see any pics of bags on parallel bars mounted in the stock leaf spring front mount

wow this threads not making much sence to me.if you doin super piviots, put them as all 4 bushings on your axel. the 4 frame mount bushings should all be poly bushings. if you run 1.5 inch tubing and 1/4 wall like i do you can mount the bags on the bars fine uppers or lowers. just not with the stock leaf spring hanger for the lowers. as for if you wanted gueesets you can by cnc cut gusset plates at any of the custom retailers. your bag needs to be centered in the middle of the bar on any bag on bar setup.

wow this threads not making much sence to me.if you doin super piviots, put them as all 4 bushings on your axel. the 4 frame mount bushings should all be poly bushings. if you run 1.5 inch tubing and 1/4 wall like i do you can mount the bags on the bars fine uppers or lowers. just not with the stock leaf spring hanger for the lowers. as for if you wanted gueesets you can by cnc cut gusset plates at any of the custom retailers. your bag needs to be centered in the middle of the bar on any bag on bar setup.

Not saying your wrong, but I will not trust 1.5" round for bags on lower bars without gussets after seeing them bend in person. Thats just me though.

We did 1.5 inch DOM with 1/4 inch thick gussets on EX90's truck. as easy as it is to add them why would you not and take that chance?

If ya tell me how long your bars are and where on the bar your bag is mounted, like its 2 inches from center or its dead on center I can laser cut you some gussets for around 30.00 plus shipping

We did 1.5 inch DOM with 1/4 inch thick gussets on EX90's truck. as easy as it is to add them why would you not and take that chance?

If ya tell me how long your bars are and where on the bar your bag is mounted, like its 2 inches from center or its dead on center I can laser cut you some gussets for around 30.00 plus shipping

My thoughts exactly, its just to easy to give it the little more support it needs to not bend later on down the road.

Ok so if i were to go bag on bars and make my own front mounting bracket and did the gussets it would be fine with the drive line angle? new to the lowered stuff and bought this 4 link and have had it around the house and just want to get it on and be right so i don't have to go back and do it again
as for the gussets BlauSplash what would these look like not sure where i could even put the bags i will get the size of the bar and see what my choices are the tire is only a 205-40-17 and i plan on not going to much bigger i have seen a guy out there with bags on bars but cant find any pictures of his setup please help if you know who i am talking about

wait a sec what size bars are you running

they are 1.5 round and quarter thick

have sd build you a cantilever 4link and stay away from heim joints... i put a sd cantilever 4link on my chevy fullsize and it was sick..

i already have the 4 link i am just trying to see what is the best way to put it on with no problems in the future

I am right confused by this entire thread.
I would not mount bags on a bar with a super pivot joint. Super pivots allow the bar to 'twist'. When the bar twists your lower mount is gonna be out of whack.
I did bags on the upper bars with SD 1.5" round bars without issue on a ranger. Had I had the access to laser cutting I have now then, I would have gusseted them anyways. I might still get him to come back and do it, just to be on the safe side.

As for bar gussets, here's a couple examples of ones I've done for customers...
http://www.houseofkohler.com/customers/shanus/shanus3.jpg

http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d153/illblazer/HoK/chelsa002Small.jpg

Ok so if i were to go bag on bars and make my own front mounting bracket and did the gussets it would be fine with the drive line angle?

The driveline angle has nothing to do with gusseting the bars. That is all in the angles and lengths of your bars, the positions and locations of your moments, and your initial setup of the differential.

The bar gussests are only to prevent the bars from bending if you are putting your bag mounts on them.

You need to do some some serious research before you dive into this.

yea that is why i am getting the best way i live in a small town where no one around knows anything about 4 links i wasnt talking about drive line angle because of the gussets i was talking about the angle as it goes through motion but i got it now i dont have a setup like the second pic the first pic is exactly what i am going for

I was just posting them as examples of gussets. the first pic is a 5 link add on I did for an S10 so I doubt its what you are doing.

Your posts make my head hurt. try using these from time to time. < . , : ; ' etc>

ok well i am only 18! Not too sure how to do it arizona doesnt have any good help.
sorry if i dont seem to know anything. I thought that was what a forum was for.....

Its just hard to understand what you are trying to ask is all I'm saying. We can' help if we dont know what you are trying to ask, ya know?

yea srry bout that. i have 4 bars and one crossmember. i would like to put bags on parallel bars using the stock front leaf spring mounts. If not doin it this way, what is the best form of bagging a gen 1 ranger with a 4 link? Thank You

I cant see why that wouldnt work. The bag will need to be offset on the bar for you to clear the frame. Offseting the bag will put a twisting force on the bar. Run poly bar ends (not superpivots) on the bars with the bags on them. Just be warned,that twisting force will cause premature wear on your bushings (probably have to replace em every year or 2 depending on how much you drive..not really a big deal). It will also put extra stress on your axle tabs and spring hangers. Make sure you lay down some good welds on the axle tabs and maybe plate them together on the backside. Personally I think your stock hangers will be fine. If you were worried about them, you could run somehting beefier like this...
http://www.suicidedoors.com/SideFrame4-LinkBarMount(pair).php
you'd just have to remove the stock mounts and use those instead.

I cant see why that wouldnt work. The bag will need to be offset on the bar for you to clear the frame. Offseting the bag will put a twisting force on the bar. Run poly bar ends (not superpivots) on the bars with the bags on them. Just be warned,that twisting force will cause premature wear on your bushings (probably have to replace em every year or 2 depending on how much you drive..not really a big deal). It will also put extra stress on your axle tabs and spring hangers. Make sure you lay down some good welds on the axle tabs and maybe plate them together on the backside. Personally I think your stock hangers will be fine. If you were worried about them, you could run somehting beefier like this...
http://www.suicidedoors.com/SideFram...ount(pair).php
you'd just have to remove the stock mounts and use those instead.



ok! that is exactly what i am talking about. You explained it just how i would like it. Being that i already have the poly ends i should be fine what kinda bracket should i use on the tube. being that it is offset i cant use the SD one would a reg flat cup work?

You can build one with a flat cup and some tube. The most important thing is to make sure you make your uppers have the right angles and your pinion be right. Understand on almost all 4linked trucks the pinion is off at extreme lift.

like the angle changes with lift? would i need to shorten my drive line it is close to hitting the rear tranny seals

like the angle changes with lift? would i need to shorten my drive line it is close to hitting the rear tranny seals

Nonono, when I say angles I'm talking about your upper trianglated bars. Your lowers will run straight from your stock hanger to the axle, should be between 26-27" length bars. Your uppers will be angled to prevent your axle from shifting side to side.

you can put bags on bars with super piviots and be fine just make sure u have the super piviots on the axel and not the frame mounts. u have to have the bag centered on the bar. on a ranger u have to kick out the mount farther from the frame. even if u have polys on all 8 mounts if your bag is offset thats what will wear out bushings.

Here you go. Bag centered on bar with super pivots. No problems what so ever.

http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k306/keith68chevy/Low%20Ranger/whiteRanger005.jpg

http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k306/keith68chevy/Low%20Ranger/whiteRanger006.jpg

only problem is those super piviots should be on the axel.