View Full Version : Tuck 20's on a 97
svtdriver627 Jan 23 2007, 01:13pm I know this has been asked before, but i've searched and haven't come up with what i'm looking for exactly.
I have a 97 4.0 5-speed Splash Step-side
I'm currently laying frame on 18x9's with a +24 offset with 245/40 tires.
Here are my questions:
Can I tuck 20's all around without chopping anything?
What is the offset and wheel width i should look for?
Any tire size recommendations.
Can anyone please post pics?
Thanks in advance everyone.
~Alex
soccorjimmy Jan 23 2007, 02:06pm Get ahold of nusensed. He has 20's with a 40 offset, you need atleast 35mm offset.I am getting my 20's and they have a 40mm offset for my 95. JIMMY
94splash40 Jan 23 2007, 02:11pm might be able to layout but def not bodydrop with 20's i've seen a bd'd stepside with lowpro 15's crackin the fiberglass
svtdriver627 Jan 24 2007, 11:42am Anyone else have any input?
~Alex
nusensesd Jan 24 2007, 12:47pm well here is what I have..
20x8.5 with a +40 offset..
If you law frame now, you won't with 20's.. Unless when it was bagged the truck was built with enough room to go down a extra inch or so. When my truck was originally bagged the truck was built to lay on a 235/45/17 now with the 20's I'm roughly a inch from laying frame now.
So more bad..
20's plan on cutting your entire wheel wells out front and rear.. Especially if you want to lay frame cause it aint going to happen without it. The front my entire passenger side wheel well is gone. The drivers side I haven't wanted to cut yet but it still does need to be cut out more.
If you have a/c and you want to lay frame prepare to modify the blower box. Mine has been removed so there is no heat or cold air..
So essentially... in order to lay a 20.. There is a lot of cutting to do.
svtdriver627 Jan 24 2007, 12:59pm Well there are no fenderwells in the rear, obviously other than the bed sides, and here's some pics of the engine bay...
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y179/svtxr/ranger/Resizeof2005_0403i-beam10004.jpg
http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y179/svtxr/ranger/ag_3.jpg
~Alex
msturg Jan 24 2007, 02:32pm 20's in the rear, means the smallest tire they make for a 20 and at least a +40 offset maybe higher since I don't think they make a 20 in a 7.5 width do they?
iLLblazer Jan 24 2007, 02:37pm from the pic it looks like your bag is pretty much fully compressed as it is now. you might have to redo your mounts to allow for the extra travel.
got a better pic of those mounts??
svtdriver627 Jan 24 2007, 02:43pm i'll try and get better pics when i go home, but i know that when the truck is lay'd out that the front bags aren't, or at least do not look, fully compressed.
~Alex
nusensesd Jan 24 2007, 02:52pm i'll try and get better pics when i go home, but i know that when the truck is lay'd out that the front bags aren't, or at least do not look, fully compressed.
~Alex
Unless you are laying frame in the front then there is nothing that should be holding that side up. If nothing is holding that side up then more than likely its fully compressed.. That would mean new upper bag mounts and possibly lowers..
svtdriver627 Jan 24 2007, 02:55pm That would mean new upper bag mounts and possibly lowers..
Oh i hope not :(
~Alex
BlauSplash Jan 24 2007, 04:18pm Tell ya how you can tell if it will lay. Roll that mother up on some 1x4's on all 4 corners and lay it out. If it lays then you will have enough play to lay 20's If not go back to the cutting room.
Ricky
svtdriver627 Jan 28 2007, 01:07pm Here are a few pics of my setup, both aired up and lay'd out.
All Up:
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y33/Svtdriver627/project%20pneumatic/DSCF1178.jpg
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y33/Svtdriver627/project%20pneumatic/DSCF1181.jpg
Lay'd out:
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y33/Svtdriver627/project%20pneumatic/DSCF1190.jpg
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y33/Svtdriver627/project%20pneumatic/DSCF1187.jpg
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y33/Svtdriver627/project%20pneumatic/DSCF1186.jpg
http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y33/Svtdriver627/project%20pneumatic/DSCF1185.jpg
Let me know if you guys think i can pull it off.
~Alex
soccorjimmy Jan 28 2007, 01:37pm Did you huy that from a guy in Wisconsin. He used to be on this forum. JIMMY
svtdriver627 Jan 28 2007, 02:06pm Did you huy that from a guy in Wisconsin. He used to be on this forum. JIMMY
Yea, this is like a kinda half finished project. I traded him my mustang, which he is selling.
~Alex
clenzer72 Jan 28 2007, 04:48pm Looks like your going to have to redo those mounts. For a real test, cut the rest of those inner fenders out go to a tire shop and bolt up a 20 with a 35 series tire on it and see if you still lay. if not those mounts will have to be redone
nusensesd Jan 28 2007, 09:02pm what size tires are you running right now?
if they aren't at least a 28" overall do like what Blausplash said and then you will know if you can or not.. Sorry pictures really won't tell what you are trying to get.
Put a 1" block of wood under the tire, if the truck still lays frame you will lay on a 20.. If it doesn't you'll be in the same pickle I am in right now.. Things will have to be redone to lay on 20's..
What I would suggest is if you don't want to redo everything is to get some 18's that you like and call it a day..
svtdriver627 Jan 28 2007, 09:25pm What I would suggest is if you don't want to redo everything is to get some 18's that you like and call it a day..
Yea, i don't feel like redoing the suspension. I have 18's that look pretty nice, but i was just checkin to see, maybe when i have the time i'll try the wood trick, until 18's it is, but 18's aren't bad so i'll be ok haha
~Alex
Smorrison1 Jan 28 2007, 10:12pm Yea, i don't feel like redoing the suspension. I have 18's that look pretty nice, but i was just checkin to see, maybe when i have the time i'll try the wood trick, until 18's it is, but 18's aren't bad so i'll be ok haha
~Alex
Measure the outside diameter of the wheel and tire on the 18.
You need at least 27 inches of clearance to clear a 20. I would do 29 just to be sure, if your 18's with tires are 28 or 29, then on a 20 with the smallest tire, you should be fine.
But yeah, on those tires, you bags are fully compressed at the frame, becuase it looks like slams up front, and they have a bump stop at 2.9 inches.
svtdriver627 Jan 28 2007, 10:20pm slam rs62's up front and airlift 2b7's out back
~Alex
Smorrison1 Jan 28 2007, 10:40pm slam rs62's up front and airlift 2b7's out back
~Alex
Then your bags are fully compressed up front.
so unless your 18s with tires are 28inches overall up front, you WILL have to redo the front mounts, and the back will have to be raised too.
svtdriver627 Jan 28 2007, 10:42pm Then your bags are fully compressed up front.
so unless your 18s with tires are 28inches overall up front, you WILL have to redo the front mounts, and the back will have to be raised too.
Then stickin with 18's it is haha, cause the rear, don't want to touch it, front don't really want to hack that apart either. Thanks guys.
~Alex
iLLblazer Jan 29 2007, 08:41am Very cool setup by the way. I just finished up a yota with a couple crossmembers like that.
http://i35.photobucket.com/albums/d153/illblazer/HoK/P1010009.jpg
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