I know bags not lowering stuff.

http://img407.imageshack.us/img407/3137/0204071554bn4.jpg

they are used to flip your leaf springs from the top of the axle to the bottom.

is that all you need to do it? or is it missing somthing

thats it

there should have been a plate too that came with the kit if its the 98-00 kit

so its a 93-97 kit? it came with some beams a bud bought. I threw em on ebay for cheap if anyone is interested.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&ih=019&sspagename=STRK%3AMESE%3AIT&viewitem=&item=290080007480&rd=1&rd=1

Idunno if I can put that there I didnt have intentions of selling them till about 5 minutes ago and I made it. oh well.

Nah its cool its ranger related supension parts. I let it go.

But yes it is a flip btracket. Not all trucks come with the flat plate as mentioned. I dunno why but the last 2 I done didn't.

thanks dude!

anyone think theyre even worth that much? some guy on there got 2 bids on a pair for 60 bucks plus 20 dollar shipping. I put them up there for less than half of that. I'm not even sure haha.

Im pretty sure the kit off of stylinconcepts is like only 40 new sommething like that anyway

brand new direct from DJM they are $60 plus shipping.

They came with my Dream Beams too, they are for a 93-97 and offer a 4" drop, unless you have the 8.8 rear end, and then its a 6" drop.

brand new direct from DJM they are $60 plus shipping.

They came with my Dream Beams too, they are for a 93-93 and offer a 4" drop, unless you have the 8.8 rear end, and then its a 6" drop.


How does that work?

8.8 has a thicker axle, so therefore its gonna drop it more, cuz your flippin the springs to the other side of the axle. IIRC

would this work on a 92 by chance?

8.8 has a thicker axle, so therefore its gonna drop it more, cuz your flippin the springs to the other side of the axle. IIRC
Yes.

would this work on a 92 by chance?
Yes. All yrs 89-97. Gen II and Gen III

I always got about the same drop on both the 883-to 97;s as I did from the 98+ trucks somewhere between 4 or 5 inches.

awesome the kid that wants to buy my truck wants to lower it or bag it for some reason I bet he would want them.

awesome the kid that wants to buy my truck wants to lower it or bag it for some reason I bet he would want them.
well if he is going to bag it its pretty much pointless.

but if he was gunna ride on it for awhile before hand it would be nice to have.

I always got about the same drop on both the 883-to 97;s as I did from the 98+ trucks somewhere between 4 or 5 inches.

my truck got 6 inches just from the flip kit, I now ride with a 3" block, and a bi-leaf setup, for 11 inches rear drop. lol.

but the size of the axle will make a difference. The 7.5 gets less drop then the 8.8.

My truck sits about an inch lower with the 8.8 compared to my old 7.5.:thumbsup:

don't the newer rangers have plates on the leaf springs in the first place too?

also, the hole goes toward the front of the truck or the back of the truck i can't remember, its been a while... i need to install my old stuff onto my new truck soon

IIRC, the hole is offset foward to prevent the slip yoke from coming to far out of the tranny.

IIRC, the hole is offset foward to prevent the slip yoke from coming to far out of the tranny.
Also, I've installed (or helped on some) 3 flip kits on rangers, two 98+ with 8.8's and one 95 with a 7.5", All the trucks had about the same ammount of drop.

oops. meant to hit edit... lol not quote myself.

Not trying to be an ass, but the key word in your post is "ABOUT." If you think about the axles, and the way the flip kit works, you will realize that a taller axle, is going to give you more drop, no matter which way you install it. I do think tho, that in your defense, that 83-97, and 98-07 get different amounts of drop from the flip kit anyways, the same flip kit that drops my truck 6 inches, may only drop a 01, 4 inches.

On the flip kit, the offset whole needs to be going toward the front of the truck, to move the axle back.

Also, I've installed (or helped on some) 3 flip kits on rangers, two 98+ with 8.8's and one 95 with a 7.5", All the trucks had about the same ammount of drop.

oops. meant to hit edit... lol not quote myself.

Yeah cuz if they were diff thickness then you wouldnt be able to use the same ubolts that came off of the 7.5". I just did a 8.8 swap with drums and it swapped out perfect. So i dunno how the whole extra 2 inches thing works........

haha anyone want these?

two dolla

Well I just measured my '01s 7.5, my '04 chassis' 8.8, and my '94 parts trucks 7.5(I think?!), and they all measured about 2.80 inches.

Well I just measured my '01s 7.5, my '04 chassis' 8.8, and my '94 parts trucks 7.5(I think?!), and they all measured about 2.80 inches.
What I'm saying is I think the pre-98 8.8's might be different from the post-98 8.8's.

Here, I put the flip kit on with my drop springs and my truck went from this:

http://img501.imageshack.us/img501/9488/truckupdate0177oj.jpg

TO THIS:

http://img410.imageshack.us/img410/745/truck13yv.jpg

So you make the Call yourself. My truck is a 95 4.0 5spd with a 8.8 31 spline 4.10 gears.

Perhaps the 28 spline has the same hieght as the 7.5, and the 31 spline is larger. All I know is that is the only place I could have gained more drop from, is having the bigger axle. But then again...what do I know...I put airshocks on my ****.

I agree with you. It has many different factors that looks to bed more than 4 inches yes........Ill be taking LOTSA pics to show measurments....

What I'm saying is I think the pre-98 8.8's might be different from the post-98 8.8's.

Here, I put the flip kit on with my drop springs and my truck went from this:

http://img501.imageshack.us/img501/9488/truckupdate0177oj.jpg

TO THIS:

http://img410.imageshack.us/img410/745/truck13yv.jpg

So you make the Call yourself. My truck is a 95 4.0 5spd with a 8.8 31 spline 4.10 gears.

Perhaps the 28 spline has the same hieght as the 7.5, and the 31 spline is larger. All I know is that is the only place I could have gained more drop from, is having the bigger axle. But then again...what do I know...I put airshocks on my ****.

Sheesh man get over it already. Not everyone thinks your a tool. I don't at least. So there, you don't have to carry a grudge, because I think your alright, and i'm kinda a big deal. Now, to my original point... How do you have 31 spline axles and 4.10s? I thought only explorers came with those. Your so lucky to already have that. I wish I did man, then I wouldn't have to put my explorer rear end in this weekend.

Sheesh man get over it already. Not everyone thinks your a tool. I don't at least. So there, you don't have to carry a grudge, because I think your alright, and i'm kinda a big deal. Now, to my original point... How do you have 31 spline axles and 4.10s? I thought only explorers came with those. Your so lucky to already have that. I wish I did man, then I wouldn't have to put my explorer rear end in this weekend.
My truck used to be a rail road truck, and they special ordered that way from ford, its actually the same axle that is in the newer FX4's. It also has a tow package and a factory cold air intake, and a bigger throttle body. My truck ran in the 15's stock for the qtr mile and everyone on here gave me **** for that too, but now I know why it did so well. I still don't have the damn slip and I need to go back to the track after I bag it maybe.

I'm glad that you think I'm alright, and I do carry a grudge, only because I have been on here for a long time, and when I first got on I really didnt know much, I've learned alot and people still take what I say for granted. All I have to say to anyone who doesnt beleive me is, When you have messed up as many times as I have (drop coils first, then flip kit. Downgrading tires size, Airshock setup on valves in the rear) you KNOW what not to do lol.

my axle is a 8.8 out of a 91 ranger and its diameter is exactly 3.75 inches.

Thats awesome that yours came like that stock. I'm gonna have to keep one upping you though. I'll have the same thing as you, except only with 3.73s. I'll have disk brakes though. :afro:

Thats awesome that yours came like that stock. I'm gonna have to keep one upping you though. I'll have the same thing as you, except only with 3.73s. I'll have disk brakes though. :afro:
yeah mine has gay ass drums...

You are one upping me...Rims, Laying frame...

Its ok, I'm getting new rims, new compressor(S) and a flip out TV this week :cheers:

yeah mine has gay ass drums...

You are one upping me...Rims, Laying frame...

Its ok, I'm getting new rims, new compressor and a flip out TV this week :cheers:

Cool. Me == pwnd. I feel ya on the compressor, it takes me years to get to 150 psi. Like seriously, it takes at least 10 minutes, I don't get it, its supposed to take like 3 and some change.

HEY HEY those are my brackets lol i got them biznatches when i bought my dream beams for baggin, ross still wants me to just bag the front static dropthe back for now but na goin striaght to bags

Hey, are those the for the 98 style or older? They look just like what was on my 87 xlt. I got about 5 1/2 inches of drop out of em.

for pre 97 rangers

anybody have a picture of how these work? liek how they sit? I dont have directions ahhaha

anybody have a picture of how these work? liek how they sit? I dont have directions ahhaha


http://djmsuspension.com/Instructions/Flip/FK3000&3001.pdf

Smorrison1,

Now that I've seen your truck, I can tell you where you got the extra drop from. It's not from the axle, it's from the spring pack!
Your truck is a fleet vehicle that comes with a "special service" spring package. It's pretty close to 1" thicker than the norm. While your flip kit will have a substantially greater drop, the finished ride height is about the same as a lowered regular ride.

As for the FX4 diff, you might have the 31 spline axles, but it will be a Traction-lok diff not a Torsen. Can you post the tag info?

As for those flip brackets! Throw them away & weld on some spring perches! I had a 95 with the "Dream beam" drop kit & I'll never do that again. I found that the rear brackets had actually deformed after several years of driving, and the tubular beams started to crack!!!



Trev

Smorrison1,

Now that I've seen your truck, I can tell you where you got the extra drop from. It's not from the axle, it's from the spring pack!
Your truck is a fleet vehicle that comes with a "special service" spring package. It's pretty close to 1" thicker than the norm. While your flip kit will have a substantially greater drop, the finished ride height is about the same as a lowered regular ride.

As for the FX4 diff, you might have the 31 spline axles, but it will be a Traction-lok diff not a Torsen. Can you post the tag info?

I guess that could be.

its not an FX4, its similar, but not locking, its limited slip. I'll see what I can do on the tag info, I'll get a pic when I can.

Smorrison1,

Now that I've seen your truck, I can tell you where you got the extra drop from. It's not from the axle, it's from the spring pack!
Your truck is a fleet vehicle that comes with a "special service" spring package. It's pretty close to 1" thicker than the norm. While your flip kit will have a substantially greater drop, the finished ride height is about the same as a lowered regular ride.

As for the FX4 diff, you might have the 31 spline axles, but it will be a Traction-lok diff not a Torsen. Can you post the tag info?

As for those flip brackets! Throw them away & weld on some spring perches! I had a 95 with the "Dream beam" drop kit & I'll never do that again. I found that the rear brackets had actually deformed after several years of driving, and the tubular beams started to crack!!!



Trev

BINGO! That makes sense now......

Whew! I was worried my rear was gonna be lower than the front!

Smorrison1,

Now that I've seen your truck, I can tell you where you got the extra drop from. It's not from the axle, it's from the spring pack!
Your truck is a fleet vehicle that comes with a "special service" spring package. It's pretty close to 1" thicker than the norm. While your flip kit will have a substantially greater drop, the finished ride height is about the same as a lowered regular ride.

As for the FX4 diff, you might have the 31 spline axles, but it will be a Traction-lok diff not a Torsen. Can you post the tag info?

As for those flip brackets! Throw them away & weld on some spring perches! I had a 95 with the "Dream beam" drop kit & I'll never do that again. I found that the rear brackets had actually deformed after several years of driving, and the tubular beams started to crack!!!



Trev




do you have pictures? i've been on this forum for 6-7 years and this is the first time i have read anything but good about dream beams and the djm flip kit...not saying that this hasn't happened before, or that you are lying....i just want to what failed on the beams and flip kit just for my own knowledge.

I dont see round tubing cracking..bending maybe after some abuse...maybe it was the welds that were cracking? or the powdercoat?
as for the flip kit, thats some pretty thick cast iron to be de-forming.i dont have any in front of me but if i remember right they are at least a 1/4" to 3/8" thick...

I dont see round tubing cracking..bending maybe after some abuse...maybe it was the welds that were cracking? or the powdercoat?
as for the flip kit, thats some pretty thick cast iron to be de-forming.i dont have any in front of me but if i remember right they are at least a 1/4" to 3/8" thick...
my djm flip kit is cracking. and rusting. looks like anus. GOOD THING IM BAGGING IT SOON!

now the flip kit cracking i can see since there really isn't any kind of gusset at the bends..mine looked like crap also when i took mine off...not cracked or deformed and they were on there for 5 years

Im painting all my parts b4 I put them on.....

I can see the powdercoat cracking and flaking off of the I beams, and the flip bracket was probably cracked for just breaking it in the press. Its funny someone always says the beams from DJM are junk and broke , but no proof. I hope he has pics. I would love to see a set finally.

I had the flip bracket on my splash for 5 years with no problems at all.

I can see the powdercoat cracking and flaking off of the I beams, and the flip bracket was probably cracked for just breaking it in the press. Its funny someone always says the beams from DJM are junk and broke , but no proof. I hope he has pics. I would love to see a set finally.

I had the flip bracket on my splash for 5 years with no problems at all.
I still havent seen proof that they bend either.

now I have seen flip kit break, but it was chassis tech.

I still havent seen proof that they bend either.

now I have seen flip kit break, but it was chassis tech.


imagine that..thats just to funny esp with the dream beams hate adds they ran for so long

do you have pictures? i've been on this forum for 6-7 years and this is the first time i have read anything but good about dream beams and the djm flip kit...not saying that this hasn't happened before, or that you are lying....i just want to what failed on the beams and flip kit just for my own knowledge.

Sorry, I don't have any pics, and I'm no longer in possession of the truck, it left with the X-wife.
But I can tell you where they cracked! The weld for the pivot eye cracked, and it wasn't just the powder coat. You could see quite the gap. Both beams had cracks, driver's side was worse. Luckily it was in getting the exhaust done at the time(that's how I noticed) so I had them weld in a bead to hold them for a while. I actually bought new Belltech beams as replacements, but the wife left & took the truck before I could replace them. At least I got to keep the beams.

As for the flimsy flip, the U had become slanted and you could see that the ends of it had mushroomed from the axle rotating & hammering on the ends. I also had them tack it to the spring perch until I could get to it.

Well, it's not my problem anymore!!:chacha:

like paco said....imagine that, another problem with aim/chassis tech.

i had my flip bracket on my truck for 2 years and it has been on my brothers for another 2 years...in those 4 years the bracket still holds the same shape it did the day i bought it. most of the powder coat has flaked off, but it's integrity is still as good as new...i've had djm beams on my truck for 4 years now and been bagged on them for 2 years. not one problem with bending or welds breaking or anything at all.

i sappose it is possible though that there is a few bad beams produced from every company from time to time. it is just like anythign else you buy.

The truck was lowered by the previous owner in 95, by the time I brought it into the exhaust shop it had been in the lowered state for almost 10 years!! Both his driving & my wife's aggressive driving definitely took a toll on the parts.

Just for car shows, the previous owner would remove the front coils & flip the rear spring perch to get it into the weeds! The idiot would drive it to shows like this!! Of course I found this out after I bought it from him! I guess under normal situations the outcome would be different.

I also have a Trailmaster drop on my 91, so I'm rather partial to a beefy flip bracket.

ok, so we still have no proof of DJM beams failing under normal conditions and proper installation...the scenario you describe def could lead to premature failure of the parts so its not really a fair example...

ok, so we still have no proof of DJM beams failing under normal conditions and proper installation...the scenario you describe def could lead to premature failure of the parts so its not really a fair example...


Very true!!