MR 130
Feb 08 2008, 10:27pm
there is no true answer or solution to the problem and what people should realize is that this a crutch till the next thing comes or newer ways are found to solve the problem.
but no lets treat it like wwIII against ourselves
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/23057867/
BOSS 3.0
Feb 09 2008, 12:37am
...but these are the same tired excuses for not doing a thing. Just what "Big Oil" wants to hear: "Oh, let's do nothing and hope it all goes away..." Sorry, we've had our heads in the sand for a hundred years (on this ONE issue) and now is the time for action, not more BS.
The economy will make it all work, here's how. Money attracts work and research, the goal is to reduce the cost and increase profit margins. You start with corn because that is what we know works and it is near perfected. Places like France and California are already using wine and cheese waste. Next it's grass clippings. Before you know it, it's switch grass. Now the very crop that grows wild in pastures is being used to fuel our cars and trucks. Switchgrass has the highest energy yeild of any crop and has a large net energy surplus (makes more energy than is used to produce it).
No, Corn Ethanol is not the answer, but the process of renewable fuel is...
I tune corn. :driving:
Allch Chcar
Feb 09 2008, 02:08am
Another bunch of overblown facts for ya :lame:. Corn based ethanol still emits 20% less carbon into the atmosphere. It just that this study add the cost of converting unused land like grassland, rain forests, and abandoned and overgrown farmland into ethanol production.
Imagine what oil drilling and refining does for carbon release and I think we can call it close. I think we'd be producing the same carbon count if we started building new drilling platforms and oil refineries instead. Whereas with ethanol we produce 20% less carbon over time.
We're still holding out for cellulosic ethanol. But corn is still the best choice for us North Americans and the best stepping stone towards encouraging growth of the future switchgrass ethanol to market.