Did he get banned?

Why?

For trying to rig the TOTY results.

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Yes he did. From what I understand he was trying to rig the TOTY voting. Here's Adam's Explanation, the second post in this thread:
http://www.rangerpowersports.com/forum/showthread.php?p=2100139#post2100139

Wow! Never would have though that. Kind of a bitch move and I have lost all respect for him.

Was he banned permanently?

Damn.....I can't believe he would do that.

Yeah, me neither!

Yes, Permanently!

wow, what a dissappointment. That sucks.

Hopefully he is reading this thread feeling embarrassed and dissapointed in himself. I can't believe he'd do that. Sure, his truck was nice and all but there were obviously other trucks that were just as good, if not better than his when it came down to RPS Truck of the Year and fradulantly creating memberships to cast votes is obsurd. Goes to show that cheaters rarely get ahead. It's upsetting to see a well-known member go out like that, with nobody to blame but himself for doing something so rediculous. I personally have lost respect for the formerly-known Metro55 and hope this becomes a lesson for others who may have had similar ideas.

I personally believe and recommend that removing his 2008 Truck of the Month section is also appropriate. All respect is lost and having him a part of the elite in this forum is hardly acceptable in my book.

Adam will provide more details when he has them gathered altogether as well. Just have faith that this was not easy to do and not without much debate among the mods. It's not something easy, especially to somebody with 5000+ posts, to do but the evidence was overwhelming and undeniable.

Adam will provide more details when he has them gathered altogether as well. Just have faith that this was not easy to do and not without much debate among the mods. It's not something easy, especially to somebody with 5000+ posts, to do but the evidence was overwhelming and undeniable.

5000+ posts or not, what he did was un-excusable and the punishment was justified for sure. no one here will hold it against the mods or admin in any way. at least i would hope not

It's not something easy, especially to somebody with 5000+ posts, to do but the evidence was overwhelming and undeniable.

Amount of posts aside, the guy is a cheater and in a way that is extremely distasteful and disrespectful to all RPS members. If anyone, regardless of credibility or popularity, tried to pull a fast one our community then I would fully expect what has happened to Metro55 to be carried out just as it has. I applaud the moderators for looking above the post count and instead seeing the true intentions of this sad individual as enough to receive a permanant ban.

Sorry for consistently commenting on this matter but after reading about it myself and remembering how shocked I was, it makes me feel disgusted knowing that anyone in his position of having a truck being recognized would go to such a low just to be more popular within RPS merely because of the title of Truck of the Year. Extremely lame.

wow, i would have never thought he would be that. sucks for him

He was an asset to the site.

yea man i had tons of respect for the guy and loved his truck... i dont understand whats the big deal of winning was lol... its just for fun ya know? oh well, it happens, i guess his new key chain he had made wont make much sense anymore lol

Wow

Wow, how childish!

Did he screw up, yes. Did he think the Admins could track his activity, don't think so. The power of an IP Address.

i guess he really wanted another key chain that could say TOTY...

The real smoking gun is that the results of all polls are saved in the admin control panel, telling us who votes, and for who, in a poll.

I am compiling the info from the voting, but between work and school Ive not had the time to get it finished. But I had enough info to make the decision that he needed to be removed from Ranger Power Sports.

I had enough info to make the decision that he needed to be removed from Ranger Power Sports.

Good catch Adam ... he got what he deserved.

I enjoy RPS, but I kind'a think it was Metros life. I'm sure it was a difficult decision.

Agreed. I also support removing Metro from the TOTM register. What he did was completly low class and :supergay: (I have been waiting a long time to use that one).

Agreed. I also support removing Metro from the TOTM register. What he did was completly low class and :supergay: (I have been waiting a long time to use that one).

lol.....

I enjoy RPS, but I kind'a think it was Metros life...

Another reason why I cant believe he would go and do something like that.

has anyone talked to metro before he was banned like a mod and asked him his side of story?

Man, never thought he'd stoop that low. Glad he's perma-banned, we don't need that around here.

Jeez you guys. Some of you are acting like he killed someone's puppy. Yeah maybe it was a dumb move. But it's the internet. cmon.

1 mistake and some many of you are so quick to jump on his throat. I hope you guys didn't consider yourself friends with him then.

I say we take this to people's court. I'll defend metro and try to have him re-instated as a member of RPS...lol...anyone wanna battle my intense lawyer skills?

Jeez you guys. Some of you are acting like he killed someone's puppy. Yeah maybe it was a dumb move. But it's the internet. cmon.


It's the principle of it, regardless of whether or not it was done on the Internet. It's just a very...deceitful thing to do. We're over here giving him props on the truck while he's behind our backs rigging the polls. Not cool!

Jeez you guys. Some of you are acting like he killed someone's puppy. Yeah maybe it was a dumb move. But it's the internet. cmon.

1 mistake and some many of you are so quick to jump on his throat. I hope you guys didn't consider yourself friends with him then.

I say we take this to people's court. I'll defend metro and try to have him re-instated as a member of RPS...lol...anyone wanna battle my intense lawyer skills?

Of course the other guy from Winnipeg comes to his defense. You're right, he's not a serial sheep rapist by any means (well as far as we know!). I know it is just the internet, but that is kind of the point. This is a Ranger Forum site where occasionaly the powers that be decide TOTM and then leave it up to us to decide the annual TOTY. It's not like we are debating the finer points of the economic down turn, we are just deciding on which Ranger looks better! If you cheat at that you are pretty lame and well ....:supergay: (twice in one night!). It's nothing personal against the guy. I was actually hoping to meet up with some of you guys when I make the move to MB late this year. It's just in violation of a simple principle.

Of course the other guy from Winnipeg comes to his defense.

Well yeah man. I know him best. I know what kind of guy he is, and he is awesome. A lot of people here are judging him based on this one incident, and not the previous years worth of knowledge, helpfulness, and friendliness to other members. I am not trying to have a battle with anyone here, or say the mods made a bad choice, I am just trying to get the point across that just because of this one incident you shouldn't base him on that.

On a side note, gimmie a PM when you move out here. We'll meet up.

wow it sounds like rps was the only thing metro55 new he would always post up pics of his "girl" but i think that was a cover up of the fact he was in love with rps more ... lol no offense i like rps but i dont get on here every day and post pictures of my truck every day and rig voting counts...

I was thinking about this last night at work, because it is sadly kind of what I do. Whenever you look at implementing a punishment on someone, one of the main deciding factors in sentancing is "does the punishment fit the crime, and how does it benifit society?" While I do not dispute removing him from RPS right now, I think that given the offense and the pmerson involved, there may be a more suitable punishment.

Metro was obviously really into RPS. He was a freequent contributor and his submissions benifited many people. He took a lot of pride in being a TOTM. This led to his desire to become TOTY. As such, mayabe the most appropriate punishment would be this:

1. a temporary ban from RPS;
2. removal and life time ban from TOTM;
3. banned from voting on any RPS forum (Ex: TOTY, photo contest, etc)

wow it sounds like rps was the only thing metro55 new he would always post up pics of his "girl" but i think that was a cover up of the fact he was in love with rps more ... .

This is getting kinda creepy. I feel like I'm watching some sort of weird documentary...

Since he lost his TOTM does that mean that I get to be his replacement? :E :E

Since he lost his TOTM does that mean that I get to be his replacement? :E :E

well seeing as i live closest to him compared to anyone else i think it's fitting that the title be awarded to me...just sayin lol.

Well yeah man. I know him best. I know what kind of guy he is, and he is awesome. A lot of people here are judging him based on this one incident, and not the previous years worth of knowledge, helpfulness, and friendliness to other members. I am not trying to have a battle with anyone here, or say the mods made a bad choice, I am just trying to get the point across that just because of this one incident you shouldn't base him on that.

On a side note, gimmie a PM when you move out here. We'll meet up.

Any idea why he did it? I know you are friends with him just wondering why? Just to get TOTY?

Just curious.

I was thinking about this last night at work, because it is sadly kind of what I do. Whenever you look at implementing a punishment on someone, one of the main deciding factors in sentancing is "does the punishment fit the crime, and how does it benifit society?" While I do not dispute removing him from RPS right now, I think that given the offense and the pmerson involved, there may be a more suitable punishment.

Metro was obviously really into RPS. He was a freequent contributor and his submissions benifited many people. He took a lot of pride in being a TOTM. This led to his desire to become TOTY. As such, mayabe the most appropriate punishment would be this:

1. a temporary ban from RPS;
2. removal and life time ban from TOTM;
3. banned from voting on any RPS forum (Ex: TOTY, photo contest, etc)

I agree with this. A "formal" apology (well as formal as the internet gets i guess) from him would be a nice gesture also.

Of course the other guy from Winnipeg comes to his defense.

I'm from the Peg area too You don't see me defending him. His RPS popularity was going to his head long ago and thought he was untouchable. His pompus actions got me a temp ban because I told him I didn't like his truck. :hail:

I was thinking about this last night at work, because it is sadly kind of what I do. Whenever you look at implementing a punishment on someone, one of the main deciding factors in sentancing is "does the punishment fit the crime, and how does it benifit society?" While I do not dispute removing him from RPS right now, I think that given the offense and the pmerson involved, there may be a more suitable punishment.

Metro was obviously really into RPS. He was a freequent contributor and his submissions benifited many people. He took a lot of pride in being a TOTM. This led to his desire to become TOTY. As such, mayabe the most appropriate punishment would be this:

1. a temporary ban from RPS;
2. removal and life time ban from TOTM;
3. banned from voting on any RPS forum (Ex: TOTY, photo contest, etc)

He got what he deserved. He was a friend on RPS and had many of them because he was popular. He basically went into RPS's House and stole a bunch of stuff (Votes) . That's just not cool I don't think I could forgive any of my friends if they came over and stole from me.

If anything I will be nice and say ban him for a year and give him time to think about what he has done.


BTW I was wondering why I was seeing him more active on a local board.

Any idea why he did it? I know you are friends with him just wondering why? Just to get TOTY?

Just curious.

I made a post in the toty thread about what I think it's about. He's in punta cana so icant ask him at this time. I'm thinking it's all about getting some good recognition. Not 100% surethough

He took a lot of pride in being a TOTM.

So do I and I'm sure the other ten Nominees did as well. He slapped us right in the mouth by cheating.

I'm thinking it's all about getting some good recognition. Not 100% surethough

well he got recognition for sure, just not the kind he wanted im sure. had he left it alone he still wouldnt have won, but he still would have had the honor of being TOTM. thats an honor i would be content with forever. there have been others banned from RPS for far less than what he did. and its not like he made one simple mistake, he mad like 50 of them, one for every account he set up to vote for himself. had he put the energy and time it took to set up all those accounts into his truck, he may have won the right way. dont get me wrong, im sure hes a great guy and i liked him here, but like what wheat said, what he did here was a slap in the mouth for the ones that even considered voting for him for TOTY and for the others that were contenders for TOTY. like i said before, the punishment was just, and fit the crime

So do I and I'm sure the other ten Nominees did as well. He slapped us right in the mouth by cheating.

No doubt. I am not supporting what he did or condoning it. I will refer you to my previous :supergay: comment.

You are very right. You recieved your TOTM status for good cause, and you did not rig the TOTY voting. It was a low shot. What I am saying is that he does not deserve to be amongst you guys as a TOTM for what he did. If he wants to get back on RPS then my oppinon is that he never recieves the same recognition that you guys got. I just think that a ban with an applogy would suffice and if he does not want to do that then F:banned:k him!

I see some are wanting to give Metro55 a chance and allow him to return after a temporary ban and other stipulations. Here's my thought on that ... his permanant ban was enforced and should stay in place with no second guessing as to whether or not it fit the act. Why? His actions were more than just a stupid mistake. It takes some cajones to decide that instead of losing the Truck of the Year voting with integrity and pride, he was going to create a slew of fake, inactive accounts to rig a large amount of votes in his favor, all in hopes of swaying the results for him to be awarded the title. This means that he seriously thought that by cheating the system he could deceive the moderators and all of the members of RPS into thinking that he was the undisputed Truck of the Year via nomination of his peers. Thus, he disrespected all Truck of the Month selectees by assuming the work and dedication he put into his truck was more deserving of such a title than the other eleven candidates. His injust then affects the RPS community as he has blatantly tried to make fools of everyone by going behind our backs to make an attempt to claim an award that he did not deserve; otherwise, he would have no need to try and misrepresent the voting talley. Thankfully, in the end the true deserving member of this title was crowned.

It's not like he was trying to rig the Snapshots contest or anything like that. In that situation, I could see a temporary ban be acceptable. In this case, I really do think that his obsession and compulsive desire to be named RPS Truck of the Year lead to a distasteful attitude on his part which then gave way to a decision lacking integrity and moral substance. The guy was a forum friend to many, an inspiration for some, and a well respected individual when it came to our little community here at RPS but his need for more attention and prestige is indicitive of someone who knows no bounds when it comes to doing what is right and being loyal to his peers.

I'm sorry if you think that the punishment issued was more than deserved but you have to wake up and realize that even though this is an internet activity, our forum should maintain a level of credibility through members being responsible for their actions and not taking it upon themselves to try and stand out amoungst one another in a way that seems increadibly advantageous to them, so much so that they have to ruin a good thing in the process. That's exactly what Metro55 did and by doing so his presence here in this forum would be questionable at best. There is no doubt that should he be allowed to return that his actions would speak louder than words and that very few members would overlook his immature act. So, instead of carrying this out with Metro55 onboard, let his punishment stand (forever), let's move on, and not allow the future of RPS to be littered with the afterthoughts of what went on. We have a new year of Truck of the Month to look forward to and certainly another exciting Truck of the Year at 2009's end. If Metro55 is so in love with his truck and has the desire to be a part of a Ranger community, he has options. Ranger-Forums, The Ranger Station, and others still exist and certainly have not banned him for what has occurred here. So, allow him to move on elsewhere and maybe then he can learn how to appropriately conduct himself on those forums. He has shown that he does not truely appreciate what it means to be unified with the members of RPS and how to play on a fair level so he has dug his own grave and I, personally, will stand by the moderators decision to have him removed for good. It's one thing to think you are deserving of an award but to go out of your way to make it happen is disgusting and shows how much this guy is into himself and that, honestly, is a piss-poor attitude to have within RPS. The arguements of how he was prior to this event, the amount of posts he has contributed to this site, and the following of members he did have are not enough to justify the selfishness of his acts and I would expect that anything carried out in a similar fashion by anyone (regardless of post count and popularity) would receive the same attention from the moderating group as we have seen here.

Enough of my rambling but I'm glad to be member of a forum that stands up for itself and does not allow members to dictate what is right and wrong. Unfortunately, 2008's Truck of the Year event has been slighly tarnished but hopefully the award to rwenzing does not have a bittersweet taste; rather, it is "delivered" with the acclaim and honor that the majority of RPS, for the most part, decided he truly deserves!

damn, he has a mighty fine looking truck!
i wonder if he will go on ranger forums now...

Your right...f:banned:k him!

i agree that was pretty Selfish

but if we do let him back with a ban on voting and a ban on Totm
i dont think people Will treat him or have the same Respect for him (on the internet) im Sure hes a great guy in person tho

i agree that was pretty Selfish

but if we do let him back with a ban on voting and a ban on Totm
i dont think people Will treat him or have the same Respect for him (on the internet) im Sure hes a great guy in person tho

I agree with that. If they do let him back in, Im sure he would just leave in a couple weeks do to that no one will be talking to him.

I agree with that. If they do let him back in, Im sure he would just leave in a couple weeks do to that no one will be talking to him.

well i would hope if he made an effort to admit his mistake and formally apologizes that some people here would forgive, after all we're human and we all make mistakes. But i guess it's not really my place to say what people should or shouldn't do, everyone has their own opinions and that's cool:thumbsup:

I see some are wanting to give Metro55 a chance and allow him to return after a temporary ban and other stipulations. Here's my thought on that ... his permanant ban was enforced and should stay in place with no second guessing as to whether or not it fit the act. Why? His actions were more than just a stupid mistake. It takes some cajones to decide that instead of losing the Truck of the Year voting with integrity and pride, he was going to create a slew of fake, inactive accounts to rig a large amount of votes in his favor, all in hopes of swaying the results for him to be awarded the title. This means that he seriously thought that by cheating the system he could deceive the moderators and all of the members of RPS into thinking that he was the undisputed Truck of the Year via nomination of his peers. Thus, he disrespected all Truck of the Month selectees by assuming the work and dedication he put into his truck was more deserving of such a title than the other eleven candidates. His injust then affects the RPS community as he has blatantly tried to make fools of everyone by going behind our backs to make an attempt to claim an award that he did not deserve; otherwise, he would have no need to try and misrepresent the voting talley. Thankfully, in the end the true deserving member of this title was crowned.

It's not like he was trying to rig the Snapshots contest or anything like that. In that situation, I could see a temporary ban be acceptable. In this case, I really do think that his obsession and compulsive desire to be named RPS Truck of the Year lead to a distasteful attitude on his part which then gave way to a decision lacking integrity and moral substance. The guy was a forum friend to many, an inspiration for some, and a well respected individual when it came to our little community here at RPS but his need for more attention and prestige is indicitive of someone who knows no bounds when it comes to doing what is right and being loyal to his peers.

I'm sorry if you think that the punishment issued was more than deserved but you have to wake up and realize that even though this is an internet activity, our forum should maintain a level of credibility through members being responsible for their actions and not taking it upon themselves to try and stand out amoungst one another in a way that seems increadibly advantageous to them, so much so that they have to ruin a good thing in the process. That's exactly what Metro55 did and by doing so his presence here in this forum would be questionable at best. There is no doubt that should he be allowed to return that his actions would speak louder than words and that very few members would overlook his immature act. So, instead of carrying this out with Metro55 onboard, let his punishment stand (forever), let's move on, and not allow the future of RPS to be littered with the afterthoughts of what went on. We have a new year of Truck of the Month to look forward to and certainly another exciting Truck of the Year at 2009's end. If Metro55 is so in love with his truck and has the desire to be a part of a Ranger community, he has options. Ranger-Forums, The Ranger Station, and others still exist and certainly have not banned him for what has occurred here. So, allow him to move on elsewhere and maybe then he can learn how to appropriately conduct himself on those forums. He has shown that he does not truely appreciate what it means to be unified with the members of RPS and how to play on a fair level so he has dug his own grave and I, personally, will stand by the moderators decision to have him removed for good. It's one thing to think you are deserving of an award but to go out of your way to make it happen is disgusting and shows how much this guy is into himself and that, honestly, is a piss-poor attitude to have within RPS. The arguements of how he was prior to this event, the amount of posts he has contributed to this site, and the following of members he did have are not enough to justify the selfishness of his acts and I would expect that anything carried out in a similar fashion by anyone (regardless of post count and popularity) would receive the same attention from the moderating group as we have seen here.

Enough of my rambling but I'm glad to be member of a forum that stands up for itself and does not allow members to dictate what is right and wrong. Unfortunately, 2008's Truck of the Year event has been slighly tarnished but hopefully the award to rwenzing does not have a bittersweet taste; rather, it is "delivered" with the acclaim and honor that the majority of RPS, for the most part, decided he truly deserves!


:hail: very well said. that about sums it up.


well i would hope if he made an effort to admit his mistake and formally apologizes that some people here would forgive, after all we're human and we all make mistakes. But i guess it's not really my place to say what people should or shouldn't do, everyone has their own opinions and that's cool:thumbsup:

he didnt make a mistake, he blatantly went out of his way to do something he damned well knew was wrong. to me that is not a mistake, that is malicious. may he be sorry about it? he probably is but whats done is done, he cant take it back and neither should the mods or admin take back there decision to ban him

The decision to permanently ban Metro from Ranger Power Sports was made by me.

When it was first brought to light that there may be some kind of issue w/ the voting, I was vocal in stating that we needed to be very careful in how this was approached, that it may just be coincidence that he got the votes the way he did.

However, once I started investigating the voting, it quickly became very clear what had happened. It was over the course of investigating this information that it came to light the depth of which he worked to circumvent the "legal" voting process in order to falsely obtain the Truck of the Year title.

As long as Im working on this website, I will not knowingly allow Metro to have another account on this website.

he didnt make a mistake, he blatantly went out of his way to do something he damned well knew was wrong. to me that is not a mistake, that is malicious. may he be sorry about it? he probably is but whats done is done, he cant take it back and neither should the mods or admin take back there decision to ban him

ok then...a malicious mistake it is. haha jk man. I'm over this whole situation. I was really surprised to see it, reacted, and now, well, i don't care anymore haha. Back to talking about why we are all here. rangers!

I see some are wanting to give Metro55 a chance and allow him to return after a temporary ban and other stipulations. Here's my thought on that ... his permanant ban was enforced and should stay in place with no second guessing as to whether or not it fit the act. Why? His actions were more than just a stupid mistake. It takes some cajones to decide that instead of losing the Truck of the Year voting with integrity and pride, he was going to create a slew of fake, inactive accounts to rig a large amount of votes in his favor, all in hopes of swaying the results for him to be awarded the title. This means that he seriously thought that by cheating the system he could deceive the moderators and all of the members of RPS into thinking that he was the undisputed Truck of the Year via nomination of his peers. Thus, he disrespected all Truck of the Month selectees by assuming the work and dedication he put into his truck was more deserving of such a title than the other eleven candidates. His injust then affects the RPS community as he has blatantly tried to make fools of everyone by going behind our backs to make an attempt to claim an award that he did not deserve; otherwise, he would have no need to try and misrepresent the voting talley. Thankfully, in the end the true deserving member of this title was crowned.

It's not like he was trying to rig the Snapshots contest or anything like that. In that situation, I could see a temporary ban be acceptable. In this case, I really do think that his obsession and compulsive desire to be named RPS Truck of the Year lead to a distasteful attitude on his part which then gave way to a decision lacking integrity and moral substance. The guy was a forum friend to many, an inspiration for some, and a well respected individual when it came to our little community here at RPS but his need for more attention and prestige is indicitive of someone who knows no bounds when it comes to doing what is right and being loyal to his peers.

I'm sorry if you think that the punishment issued was more than deserved but you have to wake up and realize that even though this is an internet activity, our forum should maintain a level of credibility through members being responsible for their actions and not taking it upon themselves to try and stand out amoungst one another in a way that seems increadibly advantageous to them, so much so that they have to ruin a good thing in the process. That's exactly what Metro55 did and by doing so his presence here in this forum would be questionable at best. There is no doubt that should he be allowed to return that his actions would speak louder than words and that very few members would overlook his immature act. So, instead of carrying this out with Metro55 onboard, let his punishment stand (forever), let's move on, and not allow the future of RPS to be littered with the afterthoughts of what went on. We have a new year of Truck of the Month to look forward to and certainly another exciting Truck of the Year at 2009's end. If Metro55 is so in love with his truck and has the desire to be a part of a Ranger community, he has options. Ranger-Forums, The Ranger Station, and others still exist and certainly have not banned him for what has occurred here. So, allow him to move on elsewhere and maybe then he can learn how to appropriately conduct himself on those forums. He has shown that he does not truely appreciate what it means to be unified with the members of RPS and how to play on a fair level so he has dug his own grave and I, personally, will stand by the moderators decision to have him removed for good. It's one thing to think you are deserving of an award but to go out of your way to make it happen is disgusting and shows how much this guy is into himself and that, honestly, is a piss-poor attitude to have within RPS. The arguements of how he was prior to this event, the amount of posts he has contributed to this site, and the following of members he did have are not enough to justify the selfishness of his acts and I would expect that anything carried out in a similar fashion by anyone (regardless of post count and popularity) would receive the same attention from the moderating group as we have seen here.

Enough of my rambling but I'm glad to be member of a forum that stands up for itself and does not allow members to dictate what is right and wrong. Unfortunately, 2008's Truck of the Year event has been slighly tarnished but hopefully the award to rwenzing does not have a bittersweet taste; rather, it is "delivered" with the acclaim and honor that the majority of RPS, for the most part, decided he truly deserves!


Would it be weird of me to say you're my favorite member on this entire site?

Would it be weird of me to say you're my favorite member on this entire site?

:rotfl: Eh, that would be a little creepy but thanks anyhow!

Would it be weird of me to say you're my favorite member on this entire site?

lmao i had to :supergay:

:goldie:

:rotfl: Eh, that would be a little creepy but thanks anyhow!

Haha, sorry, just caught up in the moment ya know? :wiggle:

Ok, since this thread seems to have served its purpose, Im now going to close this one as well.