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jaygecko
Jun 09 2001, 05:19pm
anyone know of a good place to get a tranny rebuild/overhaul kit?

i will have the tranny out by the end of tonight hopefully and i am debating on wether doing it myself or buying a rebuilt one.


if anyone has help, it would be appreciated.

i think its a md50 tranny (not positive on those numbers tho)

Zoom
Jun 09 2001, 05:51pm
The only place I've been able to get parts for the T-50 style trans has been from Ford. What are you replacing, just the synchros, or bearings as well? They're not terribly hard to do, just watch closely as you dissasemble it, and it doesn't hurt to video a few of the critical steps. A picture is worth a thousand words! And it doesn't hurt to have a good service manual available.

Doug904
Jun 09 2001, 09:16pm
Hey guys its great to be back!! Anyways, there isn't a ready made kit for overhauling a M5OD trans in a ranger. The M5OD is the manual trans offered in all rangers since about 86 or 87, im not too sure when they introed it. Why did you pull it? Did something go wrong or was it just getting harder to shift? Have you checked your clutch? The M5OD isn't too hard to build, its nothing like the T5 in the mustang though, and any tranny shop should be able to do it but hte draw back is that parts are very expensive!! You could buy another tranny for the price of the cluster, input shaft, and bearings. So you really need to find otu whats wrong then decide what to do. Later Doug904.

Zoom
Jun 10 2001, 12:46am
Hey Doug, what's the major differences between the T-50's and the M50's? I know most of the truck trans were made by Mazda, did they make the ones in the Mustangs as well? I should look on the SVO and find out, but it's dark. And I think it was a little different trans than the ones in the GT's anyway, I think it's a close ratio.

jaygecko
Jun 10 2001, 01:26am
well i had been having problems with the tranny with shifting and the clutch most likely was going to need to be replaced.

i have the tranny unbolted, just gotta remove the started and pull it out from under the truck, since i think the sinchros might need to be replaced. the clutch is going to be replaced also.

i had been having problems shifting into 1st, 3rd and 4th. the clutch was bled and there was no air in the lines and it was still messed up.


i have found a few places that have the kits for the tranny to rebuild it (probably minus the input shaft) for like low $200's and i can get a used (non rebuilt) tranny from a j/y for 750 to a rebuilt one for about 1200. and online i found a rebuilt one w/ a 6mo warrenty for 750.

i am going to take the tranny apart once its out and them im gonna decide what im gonna have to do from there.

Doug904
Jun 10 2001, 09:26pm
Hey guy you might just try changing the clutch before you go tearing into the tranny. A worn or bad clutch can cause some major shifting problems. And while your there I would also go ahead and replace the slave cylinder thats bolted into the front of the bellhousing. You'll thank me beleive it.
As for the differences between the M5OD and the T5 in the mustang, the M5 has a bellhousing made to the case where the T5's just bolts to it. The M5 uses a fluid type throw out bearing and slave cylinder where the T5 uses a cable. The shifter on a M5 is on the middle upper portion of the tranny where the T5 is removeable from the rear tailshaft section of the tranny. There are a great deal of other differences but I just hit the high spots to tell you that there aren't really anything thats the same except maybe the rear mount for the crossmember. AS for different ratios thats a whole nother story for the M5 as well as the T5. Later guys Doug904.

Zoom
Jun 10 2001, 09:56pm
Thanks Doug. Next question, I forgot to ask before. What's the difference between the World Class T5 in my SVO and the T5's or T50's in other Mustangs? I know it has closer ratio gearing, is there any other differences? I should have thought about the clutch cable, the linkage on the trans has been one of the weak points at least on the SVOs. Most guys keep a spare connector with them.

Doug904
Jun 10 2001, 10:05pm
The big difference between the T5's are the gear ratio's. The difference between the World class and non-world class t5's are that the WCT5's have roller bearings through out. and the NON-wct5's jsut have brass shims. There are big gear changes in the T5's through out the years and having an SVO you probably already know that the 84's didn't have the WCT5 they had a trans close to what was offered in the late model non-tubo 2.3 mustangs. But the 85 and up had the world class roller bearing T5 with a different first gear then the 84s. A better ratio first gear then the 84's. Yes the small cable, about an inch long is a big draw back on the T5's but the funny thing is that only the 4 cyl models have this. Now my information may not be true concerning the 80 models 3.8 but it does cover the 94-up 3.8's. Man I could go all night talking about changes in the t5 models so here's just a few. Later Doug904.

P.S. as for the T50 that you speak about I don't know of any of these but if you mean what comes behind the 96 and up 4.6 mustangs its the T-45. And thats a whole different ball game. Just to start the bellhousing is part of the tranny main support system adn holds bearings. ITS DIFFERENT! or if you mean the T-56 which isn't offered in any mustang just yet , its a 6 speed.

jaygecko
Jun 11 2001, 01:03am
ive already changed the slave cylinder (did it a few months ago) but only that since i didnt think about changing the clutch when i had it apart, but i am already replacing the clutch. i already need some things for the tranny that i have to get to replace things that were partially damaged.

the clutch doesnt appear that bad when we were looking at it and comparing it to the pics of a clutch that is ok.

Zoom
Jun 11 2001, 09:05pm
Thanks for the info Doug. My SVO is an 86, so now I know a little about the trans too. Never got to involved in it, spent most of the technical learning stuff on the engine. It's a good trans.