190 lph fuel pump.....

Charlie · Apr 01 2004, 09:05am

Well I finally got the 190 lph fuel pump from my buddy who's building a high horsepower Mustang yesterday. While it was too small for his application it should be more than adequate for my little 3.0. I plan on installing it Friday morning and will let everyone know how it goes.

**Trooper Thorn** · Apr 01 2004, 10:47am

Do you have any other mods? 190 is alot on a stock motor. Whats the term when your fuel pump starves? Its a good technical term.

**Adam Baker** · Apr 01 2004, 11:02am

AS long as you have a return line, you shouldnt have a problem. Im running a 155 lph w/ a bone stock 4.0, and have had zero problems. The biggest concern would be the fuel line size. Its possible for the lines to be too small to be able to flow that much fuel, causing the pump to eventually burn out.

GTwannabe · Apr 01 2004, 11:30am

You can't go too big on fuel pumps, even with a returnless system. The fuel pressure regulator is inside the tank and dumps excess gas into the tank instead of going out to the motor and back thru a return line.

grillen85 · Apr 02 2004, 12:05pm

That , is correct even if it is pushing 2 many # it will make no difference ! cause your reg. is probably set between 30-60 ( I dunno much about rangers but that is how it is on my Mustang ( which it is a carb carb and should go no high then 14 # which is still 2 much ! ) get a good after market Regulator or even a psi guage to knwo exactly where your @ )

*98blownranger* · Apr 02 2004, 10:45pm

I know a few of the 4.0 guys tried the 190 and they didn't last long. they burnt them up due to the small line size not letting the fuel flow fast, fuel is what keeps them cool.

curt

splash96svo · Apr 02 2004, 11:16pm

I put a 95lb from my 1993 mustang GT. When i swapped my 95 for a 155 out, i put my 95lb in my ranger and it actually made no diff at all, but then i installed my old 19lb injectors. Honestly it made a real good diff on top end, so the fuel pump will go great with a set of 19lb injectors added, also i forgot to mention that i also added a fuel pressure regulator on my ranger when i ordered one for my mustang.

It was kinda easy, took me about three hours start to finish, i hope i helped.

GTwannabe · Apr 03 2004, 12:01am

Quote:

I know a few of the 4.0 guys tried the 190 and they didn't last long. they burnt them up due to the small line size not letting the fuel flow fast, fuel is what keeps them cool.

What probably happened was that the 190lph pumps they used weren't rated for 70+ psi fuel pressure. Those pumps are rated 190lph at 0psi. As the pressure climbs, the flow drops. Probably pushing only 155lph at 30-40 psi. Trying to push 60-70 psi in a returnless system would cause the relief valve on the pump to stay open all the time. I'm not surprised their pumps burned up from the strain.

92sport · Apr 04 2004, 04:01pm

I'm planing on upgrading my fuel pump to a 150lph. I have a return style fuel system. Will I be alright? And does anyone know where to find the strainer for a fuel pump without buying the pump? All the places I called won't sell the strainer without the pump.

lillitnn92 · Apr 04 2004, 04:49pm

i've been running a 155lph for about a year now and i have had no problems from it.

92sport · Apr 05 2004, 03:11pm

Cool this weekend I have a project.

*98blownranger* · Apr 05 2004, 08:01pm

they were using them on the return style fuel lines and I think Doug904 was one of them, 35psi on thos systems

92sport · Apr 05 2004, 08:45pm

On to my other question does anyone know where to look to find a strainer for the fuel pump without buying the whole thing?

Charlie · Apr 06 2004, 01:54pm

Well Friday I dropped my tank and put in the 190 lph fuel pump. Well after reassembling everthing my truck was very hard to start. I am thinking that it is just the fuel line having to refill and everthing would be okay after that. Well the truck did start and ran fine but the hard to start condition was there everytime I tried to start it. When I took the truck out for a "butt dyno" vtest drive, the truck lost all power above 4,000 RPM's. Through the weekend the performance got worse till yesterday I couldn't go over 30 MPH while bringing my kids home from school. Apparently the pump my buddy gave me was not in that good of shape. It had been setting up for quite a while. A least he gave it to me free. Well this morning I went and bought a "new" 110 LPH fuel pump for a Mustang Cobra. I'll be darned if I was going to drop that tank again without putting a new pump in there. I installed it and all my problems cleared up and my old B3000 is running just fine. The old "butt dyno" really approves of this mod. The new pump seems to help get the full potential out of my 19 lbs. injectors. Now I nedd to get an adjustable fuel pressure regulator so I can fine tune my new setup.

92sport · Apr 06 2004, 03:12pm

Good to hear you straightened it out. I hope my fuel pump works. I bought it off of ebay used.

Apr 01 2004, 09:05am	#1
Charlie Rush is right! Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Nederland Texas Posts: 438 Friends: (0)	190 lph fuel pump..... Well I finally got the 190 lph fuel pump from my buddy who's building a high horsepower Mustang yesterday. While it was too small for his application it should be more than adequate for my little 3.0. I plan on installing it Friday morning and will let everyone know how it goes. __________________ 94 Mazda B3000 5spd. 2WD Photos

Apr 01 2004, 11:30am	#4
GTwannabe Member Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Red Hook, NY Posts: 481 Friends: (0)	You can't go too big on fuel pumps, even with a returnless system. The fuel pressure regulator is inside the tank and dumps excess gas into the tank instead of going out to the motor and back thru a return line. __________________ 98 Mazda B3000 std cab 4x4 5spd 87 Stang w/ built SVO motor 66 Stang

Apr 02 2004, 11:16pm	#7
splash96svo Rodger Rangers Join Date: Jun 2001 Posts: 157 Friends: (0)	I put a 95lb from my 1993 mustang GT. When i swapped my 95 for a 155 out, i put my 95lb in my ranger and it actually made no diff at all, but then i installed my old 19lb injectors. Honestly it made a real good diff on top end, so the fuel pump will go great with a set of 19lb injectors added, also i forgot to mention that i also added a fuel pressure regulator on my ranger when i ordered one for my mustang. It was kinda easy, took me about three hours start to finish, i hope i helped. __________________ 1999 CSVT

Apr 04 2004, 04:01pm	#9
92sport Will spring ever be here? Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Elk River MN Posts: 650 Friends: (2)	I'm planing on upgrading my fuel pump to a 150lph. I have a return style fuel system. Will I be alright? And does anyone know where to find the strainer for a fuel pump without buying the pump? All the places I called won't sell the strainer without the pump. __________________ 92 Ranger 3.0l SC 5 spd 2980 lbs 219 hp and 259 tq @ 8 psi w/NO CHIP getting 18 mpg Dyno'd W/O JBA headers Ported Eaton M90 w/IC 2.81" SC pulley 70mm TB FI cam 8.8" w/LSD & Rear Disc CF II Clutch 17" cobras w/ 235/40R17, 97 Front brakes, SOON: new sc top, 10 psi 02 Ford Escort ZX2 5 speed http://www.cardomain.com/memberpage/837330/1

Apr 04 2004, 04:49pm	#10
lillitnn92 HELLO!! Join Date: Nov 2001 Location: Harrisonburg, VA Posts: 1,518 Friends: (1)	i've been running a 155lph for about a year now and i have had no problems from it. __________________ 1992 Ranger Sport....MODS: custom "true" cold air intake, JBA headers, hi-flow cat, Flowmaster 40, MSD 6A (donated to Pinks truck project) w/ Blaster coil and Accel 8.8mm wires, DZK007 underdrive pulley, Perma Cool fan, Centerforce Stage II, Holley 155LPH fuel pump and 18° BTDC of timing.....Jeremy


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Apr 01 2004, 10:47am	#2
Trooper Thorn Dixie-fried Californian Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Alpharetta, GA Posts: 2,530 Friends: (20)	Do you have any other mods? 190 is alot on a stock motor. Whats the term when your fuel pump starves? Its a good technical term.

Apr 02 2004, 12:05pm	#5
grillen85 S-10 Driver Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: Fla Posts: 24 Friends: (0)	That , is correct even if it is pushing 2 many # it will make no difference ! cause your reg. is probably set between 30-60 ( I dunno much about rangers but that is how it is on my Mustang ( which it is a carb carb and should go no high then 14 # which is still 2 much ! ) get a good after market Regulator or even a psi guage to knwo exactly where your @ )

Apr 02 2004, 10:45pm	#6
98blownranger Custom KeyChain R Me Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: manitowoc WI Posts: 2,139 Friends: (5)	I know a few of the 4.0 guys tried the 190 and they didn't last long. they burnt them up due to the small line size not letting the fuel flow fast, fuel is what keeps them cool. curt

Apr 05 2004, 03:11pm	#11
92sport Will spring ever be here? Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Elk River MN Posts: 650 Friends: (2)	Cool this weekend I have a project.

Apr 05 2004, 08:01pm	#12
98blownranger Custom KeyChain R Me Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: manitowoc WI Posts: 2,139 Friends: (5)	they were using them on the return style fuel lines and I think Doug904 was one of them, 35psi on thos systems

Apr 05 2004, 08:45pm	#13
92sport Will spring ever be here? Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Elk River MN Posts: 650 Friends: (2)	On to my other question does anyone know where to look to find a strainer for the fuel pump without buying the whole thing?

Apr 06 2004, 01:54pm	#14
Charlie Rush is right! Join Date: Jun 2001 Location: Nederland Texas Posts: 438 Friends: (0)	What a fiasco..... Well Friday I dropped my tank and put in the 190 lph fuel pump. Well after reassembling everthing my truck was very hard to start. I am thinking that it is just the fuel line having to refill and everthing would be okay after that. Well the truck did start and ran fine but the hard to start condition was there everytime I tried to start it. When I took the truck out for a "butt dyno" vtest drive, the truck lost all power above 4,000 RPM's. Through the weekend the performance got worse till yesterday I couldn't go over 30 MPH while bringing my kids home from school. Apparently the pump my buddy gave me was not in that good of shape. It had been setting up for quite a while. A least he gave it to me free. Well this morning I went and bought a "new" 110 LPH fuel pump for a Mustang Cobra. I'll be darned if I was going to drop that tank again without putting a new pump in there. I installed it and all my problems cleared up and my old B3000 is running just fine. The old "butt dyno" really approves of this mod. The new pump seems to help get the full potential out of my 19 lbs. injectors. Now I nedd to get an adjustable fuel pressure regulator so I can fine tune my new setup. __________________ 94 Mazda B3000 5spd. 2WD Photos

Apr 06 2004, 03:12pm	#15
92sport Will spring ever be here? Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Elk River MN Posts: 650 Friends: (2)	Good to hear you straightened it out. I hope my fuel pump works. I bought it off of ebay used.